Buckskin or Palomino Stallions

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Can people give me suggestions for a buckskin or palomino stallions please? Must be over 16h and preferably warmblood. I do not usually breed for colour but this is the last time I am putting my mare infoal, i will of course be looking at all suggested stallions very carefully to see if they will be a good cross conformationally etc, so far I like Multicolor II and Win the Gold but I know there are alot more possibilities out there
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It depends not only the color. It depends what kind of pedigree you want, what kind of performance the horse should be able to go later and what Association you want the foal to be accepted with. In the main books or if you would accept lower books too.

We have just some days ago been contacted by the Selected Sires of Germany book publishers and they want to have three of our stallions in the new jubilee edition that will be out by end of May this year. It will be in several languages. Only very good stallions that are fully lifetime approved and with possibilities for several main German Associations are of interest to them they said. They chose three of ours. Sure we are flattered!
 
I second Cruiseline's Buckskine stallion - he is gorgeous....not standing at public stud yet I believe though as he is needs to finish his grading. Ditto I like Multicolour. There is also the stallion Dun to Order who looks rather smart BUT he faile dhis grading and so it would be worth finding out why that was. Palomino wise there is Treliver Decanter who pops into my head.
 
I love the stallions of Gestuet Falkenhorst, particularly Win the Gold and Dream of Gold on the Palomino side. If you want guaranteed colour, why not go for a double dilute stallion?
 
Thank you guys, I love my Buckskin boy too. He is going forward for his second stage this year, fingers crossed. He is at the Regional Dressage Finals next week too.

Delphipuppy has the lovely palomino stallion Treliver Decanter

But to be sure of a buckskin or palomino foal, you should be looking at a double dilute as that will give you a guaranteed single dilute.

Here are some pics of you to see

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Delphiepuppy... he is seriously stunning!

I just love his mane and tail, would suit me down to the ground
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I wonder what a chestnut and palomino would creat colour wise?

Please would someone explain what 'double dilute' means?
 
A buckskin is a bay horse with one 'dilute', a palomino is a chestnut with one dilution. Double dilutes are cremellos and perlinos, who have two copies of the dilute gene (so both parents had a copy of the dilute gene) and will therefore always pass on one copy, so their offspring will always be buckskin, palomino or smokey black (black with one dilution gene).

So a chestnut with a palo could create a chestnut or a palo, whereas a chestnut and a cremello would create a palo.
 
thank u for the suggestions, there is a few for me to go and do some research on, really liking cruiselines boy what is he called?
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I do not want to use a double dilute stallion because my mare is buckskin her self and that means I would have a 50% chance of having a double dilute foal, I really want a buckskin stallion so that I have 50% chance of getting a buckskin and only 25% chance of a double dilute, although knowing my luck i'll get a bay foal, which is the other 25% chance, which is why I am asking for names so I can go off and do loads of research on the stallions and pick one that even if it was a solid foal it would still be a good foal.
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I am toiling with the idea of using a Palomino just because I think it would be really exciting knowing there is 4 different colours possible all with an equal chance, bay carrying chestnut, bucksin, palomino and double dilute, it would be very exciting
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Cruiseline's gorgeous boy is called Legrande. Whilst she has not advertised him yet at all, I believe he has a queue of mare's waiting for him already and I believe I am correct in saying that Cruiseline has one mare due to him this year.
 
wow you've all realy confused me now! I've got a palomino mare who I put to a coloured stallion last year, at the same time I put a chestnut mare to the same stallion. The chestnut produced me a stunning coloured, and my palomino who's mother was the same colour produced me a lovely palomino baby. I'd love to get another palomino from her but am realy confused about these colour genetics!! What would you use as her next partner?
 
Well I *think*

the Palomino Mare to the Coloured resulting in the Palomino... the Palomino mare would have put in the dilute gene (cremello) and the Chestnut came from the coloured to get another Palomino... If the coloured stallion had put in the Tobiano gene (coloured) as well as the Chesnut gene (and the mare had still put the dilute gene in) you would have got a Palomino Tobiano
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Someone would be able to work out all the possibilities for you if we knew which stallion it was
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Cruiseline's gorgeous boy is called Legrande. Whilst she has not advertised him yet at all, I believe he has a queue of mare's waiting for him already and I believe I am correct in saying that Cruiseline has one mare due to him this year.

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Yes you are correct eventrider23 his name is Legrande, he is an Oldenburg 6 year old now. His breeding is here

http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?z=Bt9gqV&d=legrande

I am very excited about his first foal, which is due in June. He has a 100% conception rate at the moment, as I only used him on one mare last year.
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I promise you will all be informed when he goes public
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To answer your Qs we really need to know wether the coloured stallion is red based or black based...i.e. is he piebald or skewbald?

For your palomino mare - she is a chestnut with one copy of the cream gene which has diluted her chestnut coat to palomino.

For your chestnut mare she is red based (may also carry agouti, the gene which converts a black coat to bay) and can produce a palomino/buckskin foal if bred to a stallion with one or two cream gene copies - it is down to chance if the stallion is palomino/buckskin whetehr teh foal is a dilute but if he is perlino/cremello the foal will definitely be palomino/buckskin.
 
I'll add that I have a youngster by TD and he's a complete star - just being started now and takes everything in his stride. He did very well showing in hand as a 2yo also
 
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To answer your Qs we really need to know wether the coloured stallion is red based or black based...i.e. is he piebald or skewbald?

For your palomino mare - she is a chestnut with one copy of the cream gene which has diluted her chestnut coat to palomino.

For your chestnut mare she is red based (may also carry agouti, the gene which converts a black coat to bay) and can produce a palomino/buckskin foal if bred to a stallion with one or two cream gene copies - it is down to chance if the stallion is palomino/buckskin whetehr teh foal is a dilute but if he is perlino/cremello the foal will definitely be palomino/buckskin.

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The stallion I used was victor van erpkom a belgan warmblood skewbald.
 
Thanks for that Druid. Your boy's full sister (rising 2) is in at the moment as she got chased and bitten by a stray dog. Her leg was badly swollen, she has had her leg dressed every day, been injected with anti b's every day, been on box rest and she is still the most charming person. The nicest thing of all is that she still chats over the door to my dogs, she seems to know they are friendly.
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Fortunately she has made a good recovery so will be able to go out with her pals again soon.
 
Remember My Name is a palomino & white sabino TB stallion that is a 2 year old this year (2 officially in June 2009) and currently 16hh. His full sister has matured to just a smidge under 17hh and he should finish in the same area as well - 16.3-17hh at maturity

He is entering stud on a limited basis in Canada for 2009 and will be available in the UK in 2010 onwards. The intention is to present him to one or two WB associations for approval and then begin his competitive career as well

Here are a few pictures of him taken 2 weeks ago:

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and:

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and:

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So - if you'd like to try for the dilute colouring with some flashy white markings as well, he is a nice young stallion to consider ...
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I adore this colt and I will miss him like crazy when he is gone!

Have fun in your search and good luck in your final selection ...
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