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My foal was born what I think is a very normal Buckskin colour but as he is shedding his foal coat he seems to be going a very strange colour !!

Anyone else seen or have pictures of a Buckskin this colour ?

At Birth
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A few weeks old
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Taken today
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A close up
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I would really appreciate any thoughts on his colour.
 
My friend had one that looked similar and stayed the darker colour. He hasn't been tested but we're thinking he must be smokey black rather than buckskin - is that a possibility for yours?
 
I knew a foal very similar to that, he looked buckskin (Perlino sire, bay dam) until he lost his foal coat when he was very obviously smoky black and no longer buckskin at all!
 
Thank you for your replies, Gingerarab he is By Mcjonnas out of Adaptable (tb).

I think you are probably right that he is turning smokey black, I will just have to keep watching and waiting as he sheds his foal coat.
 
I am not sure what colour he is but he looks very striking.

Out of interest what colour were the parents?

I am thinking of putting my buckskin mare to a cremello stallion and was wondering what I would get as there is a possibility she could throw a smokey black.

My mares dam is buckskin (has never thrown a grey foal, all been buckskin or bay) and her sire was bay.
 
I am thinking of putting my buckskin mare to a cremello stallion and was wondering what I would get as there is a possibility she could throw a smokey black.
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Cremello (is he tested? perlinos can do a good impression sometimes)
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Buckskin
E? A? Crcr - do you know if she is Ee or EE, Aa or AA?

If the stallion or the mare are AA then no chance of a smoky black, only buckskin, palomino, cremello or perlino. If the mare is EE then strike palomino and cremello off the list. If they are both Aa or the mare is Aa and the stallion aa then smoky black or smoky cream are possible.

Hope that helps a little
 
Tiny Fluffy Coblet said:
Cremello (is he tested? perlinos can do a good impression sometimes)
ee CrCr Agouti status unknown (unless you do know?)

Buckskin
E? A? Crcr - do you know if she is Ee or EE, Aa or AA?

If the stallion or the mare are AA then no chance of a smoky black, only buckskin, palomino, cremello or perlino. If the mare is EE then strike palomino and cremello off the list. If they are both Aa or the mare is Aa and the stallion aa then smoky black or smoky cream are possible.

Hope that helps a little
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Thanks for that!

Nope not had her tested. The stallion has been tested as far as I know but I will check at the weekend.

I guess it will be pot luck then!
 
Although Wispagold - is your buckskin mare the one pictured in your signature? Because (she is lovely :D ) but darker than I would be expecting a buckskin... So maybe RSC's colt IS still a buckskin who will lighten a bit but not as much as first thought?!!

And to think it all looked so clear cut at birth!!!!
 
Mugsgame said:
Although Wispagold - is your buckskin mare the one pictured in your signature? Because (she is lovely :D ) but darker than I would be expecting a buckskin... So maybe RSC's colt IS still a buckskin who will lighten a bit but not as much as first thought?!!

And to think it all looked so clear cut at birth!!!!
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Yes, she is the one in my signature. She looks a lot darker in the winter than the summer. I don't know what colour she was as a foal but this is a photo of her as a 2yr old:

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And a photo of her now (Summer):
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Winter
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I am assuming she is buckskin rather than dun although I have no idea of what her genetics are. She is a 3/4tb 1/4 connemara.

The foal might just be a very dark dun, that is why I asked what colour the parents were. He is a lovely colour though.
 
Both foals below have the same sire (bay) and dam (perlino). I know the 1st stays buckskin but the 2nd, I would guess smokey black but my vet says black buckskin. Put the two together and you get your's rsc ??

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Remember that there are just as many variations in buckskin coats as there are in bays - from light to medium to almost black so your colt MIGHT be a buckskin or he could also be a smoky brown. I dont think he is smoky black though

Gorgeous colt whatever colour he turns out to be! :)
 
Here is a picture of Blacksaddle Starbuck - a buckskin Morgan stallion who has been genetically tested to BE a buckskin and also produced a perlino when bred to another dilute mare:

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I would NEVER have looked at this picture of him and thought "buckskin". Never ...

It just really illustrates what a wide variation buckskin can come in and now with the "At" test available on the States (Brown factor) we are also finding a lot of horses that we thought were brown toned buckskin's are actually smoky browns instead (the single dilute of the brown gene) whereas buckskin is the single dilute of the bay gene ... :)
 
oh i do love these colour posts..learn alot but still confusing
we have a buckskin at the yard also a dun which i may think now is a buckskin(NF im sure i read that you cant get in NF ponies she has a narrow dorsel strip dark shading on shoulders)

so some buckskins can actually look like bays/browns
 
haycroft said:
oh i do love these colour posts..learn alot but still confusing
we have a buckskin at the yard also a dun which i may think now is a buckskin(NF im sure i read that you cant get in NF ponies she has a narrow dorsel strip dark shading on shoulders)

so some buckskins can actually look like bays/browns
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Thats right haycroft, there are many different shades of bay, ranging from the almost black to the bright chestnuty bay, we also see the same vast colour ranges in buckskins. I have two foals this year that I can't wait to see what colour they moult out to. I think one might be quite like dad, but the other could look a lot like the morgan featured above. We will see :D
 
cruiseline said:
Thats right haycroft, there are many different shades of bay, ranging from the almost black to the bright chestnuty bay, we also see the same vast colour ranges in buckskins. I have two foals this year that I can't wait to see what colour they moult out to. I think one might be quite like dad, but the other could look a lot like the morgan featured above. We will see :D
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aw thanks cruiseline
i also read that connies arent duns either..you see alot advertised being dun but maybe they are actually buckskins

do you know if there any courses in horse colour genetics,as i find this very interesting and some of you on here are really knowledgable on this
 
Very good post! I posted about my 'buckskin' recently and ended up with lots of acusations that he was liver chestnut, bay or brown but no way at all could he be buckskin or chocolate dun/dark dun! I'm about 80% sure he is buckskin from his breeding but have sent off for dna testing/colour testing so we'll know some time next week what colour he actually is! doesn't matter at all as he is very unusually coloured :)
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Law, I would say your boy is either a very dark sooty buckskin or a sooty brown, but it definitely looks like he could be carrying the dilute gene.

What is his breeding?

SuZQuzie, yours horse is very dark, it really proves that there are huge colour ranges even with the dilute gene present.
 
cloball: They can have coutershading (just like a bay can), but the presence of the cream gene does not inherently mean that a dorsal stripe is present. However, the presence of the dun gene does cause a dorsal stripe. Dun and cream have completely different causative genes. It is possible for a horse to have both the dun and cream gene though.
 
NO way buckskin Law, but I am betting smoky black instead ... :)

Here is my smoky black (genetically tested and confirmed) mare in April of her yearling year with her new coat coming in after she has shed out:

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and:

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And in September of her 2 year old year with her summer coat fading and her winter coat starting to come in again, starting from the bum on forward:

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and then her winter coat ...

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Your guy reminds me SO much of Nightlight's coat colour I am almost positive he'd be a smoky black as well

What colour are his sire and dam?
 
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