Bugger, looks like my horse is knackered.

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He has been intermittently lame on and off since last november. It's so ridiculously slight sometimes I think I am imagining it. He's competing at novice level dressage (not with me I'm not a good enough rider!) and starting to school elementary at home,he is in a reasonable level of work schooling and hacking 5/6 days a week. It's not as though we abuse him either, I do walk and trot hacking and we always school on a good level surface never deep and holey - neither of us jump him, he is never thrashed on roads etc etc. I have changed farriers and new one is balancing his feet - shod every 6 weeks.
He's lamer on the left rein on a circle, but only 1/10 lame trotted on flat level concrete.

I am just paranoid he's knackered, My mare has been in retirement since october 2011 after unsuccessful treatment for bone spavin ongoing since 2009. Looks like my boy is going the same way.

I am going to do what my vet told me to do with the mare and he has agreed this is a sensible first step. we have done paddock rest. - he had 2 weeks over xmas no riding and then hacking only for another 3 weeks, we started back with lessons and he went "bridle lame" which he worked through it well, this horse knows every evasion in the book! We competed 2 weeks ago, he went brilliantly followed by an excellent lesson. Now we are back to square one. As soon as we up the work, he goes lame. I am now going to try box rest for a week no bute and see where we are at the end of that time.

My worry is I have another paddock ornament. We want a horse to compete, I love doing the grooming my friend rides for me. I don't want another paddock pet - I have one of those already and he's only 10 - (the mare is 17) So thinking ahead I suppose I can sell or loan him as a happy hack and look for our next comp horse.

He is insured so we can spend that next step will be x-rays and scans. Anyone else has similar problems?
 
Well I've had problems with knackered youngish horses if that's what you mean? :(

If this horse's issue is in the front feet do bear in mind that a lot of people have had more success removing shoes and rehabilitating rather than using conventional treatments. There are more alternatives these days to try and treat these problems than there used to be so don't give up yet. :)
 
I was thinking of the barefoot route if he doesn't improve. I am not against it at all - my 5 year old is barefoot/unshod, he just doesnt need them. So maybe an option to try.
Thankyou.
 
No, and I do have sympathy for your situation... but I wonder why you feel that 'bridle lame' = 'evasive'.
I would define bridle lame as lameness resulting from non limb pain,and I would deal with it with the same concern as I would have for any other lameness.
 
My mare went lame in 2010 after only owning her for a year, unfortunately she wasn't insured, however mum had just had a big comission cheque :p so we had the vet out time and time again, back lady out everything, ended up having her nerves 'blocked' to see exactly where it was, her joint fluid in her coffin joint was a bit runny, so they thought it was a diseased joint, but then the blockers didn't stop the lameness, at that point, so it was inside her foot, had x-rays incase it was navicular etc etc and nothing came up apart from a sist in her bone that she would have had since a foal.

We gave her a year off in the field and now she's back to her old self again, it's a bit worrying because we don't know what caused it, probably a small ligament in her foot or something, but she's good as new :) could just wing it and have a field ornament for a year and loan a horse yourself for a year? That's what we did :) She's 15 now, so was 13 when it happened, so a middle aged horse, but still young from my point of view :) especially seen as she acts like a 2 year old half the time :p
 
You haven't said what your vet has said or done. What do they recommend other than the rest and now bute etc. I would have thought that it would be worth immediately starting on the xray/scan route as you are already a couple of months into the lameness and your insurance claim time is ticking away! The box reest/bute won't really tell you what the problem is. In fact if the xray/scans are inconclusive and you have the insurance cover I would press ahead and have MRI too. Good luck - but do get going on proper investigation. Now!
 
I have battled with a super talented young horse 1/10th lame on and off, test after test but still kept going lame and nothing really diagnosed - sometimes you just have to give up and let them go to live a more suitable lifestyle.

My boy is in the next village to me and they just want him as a companion and gentle hacking mainly on a weekend - just perfect and he looks very sound!!

Good luck with your decision and I am sure whatever you do it will be the right one - just be honest with any new potential owner / rider.
 
This sounds similar to my horse, who has a front tendon issue. She has time off then just goes very slightly lame again as she comes back into harder work/jumping. I am now trying the no shoes idea as it has worked for a friends horse who was previously almost 'written off'. I can't tell whether it is helping my horses lameness issues yet as we have no school now and she is still in the 'rehab' stages of getting used to not having shoes on, however the improvements in her foot confirmation alone are enough to make me think it has been worth it.
I would suggest having a read of the Rockley Farm website (I think they also help horses with bone spavin.) I was very sceptical at first but I am now a bit of a convert!
 
Thanks all. I will chuck him out and see what happens, we did all the invasive tests etc with the mare and still ended up with a useless horse. I can't loan something while I've got him as have no time for another. I will have another chat with the farrier and book some scans and x rays as well. I can't help thinking he's had it and a quiet hacking life would suit him. He's a fab hack - the sort people would love to have, safe in traffic, alone and in company, so I don't think I will have a problem loaning him at all!! But I can't have 2 paddock pets at the end of the day.
 
Has you vet done nerve blocks yet/more in depth lameness evaluation? If not I would get on and do it along with those X rays. As someone else said he's already had this lameness going on couple of months and time is ticking by if you are wanting to claim on insurance. You really need to know whats going on in order to sort it out as it doesn't sound like its going away in a hurry. X rays can throw up some surprising results - or nothing of course - but at least that also rules out some horrors! Its the only way forward.
 
Just to complicate things for you, I've had three horses with navicular syndrome unsuccessfully treated conventionally. When my current horse showed similar symptoms I thought the same as you; investigations - pointless waste of time when they can't fix it. Still i went and had them anyway and (after a false start when the vet took the wrong x-rays :rolleyes: ) we found my horse had a keratoma which is fixable! :) :)

So I'd say if your horse is insured go ahead with all the tests you are entitled to do. You can then make a decision on whether to and how to treat once you really know what it is you are dealing with.
 
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If it was my horse I would be investigating his back; getting a back person in and checking the saddle at the same time.
 
If it was my horse I would be investigating his back; getting a back person in and checking the saddle at the same time.

Saddle has been properly fitted and checked! Have just changed from a dressage saddle to a GP infact as the fit is miles better. I may get a physio to take a look over him, we have an excellent local one and it's not too expensive.
 
My boy has similar problems, 1/10th lame but on both frontd, plus lots of pointing toes. I had an MRI done straight away and he has navicular, collateral ligament damage and pedal osteitis. Outlook wasn't great with conventional treatment so he went to Rockley last week, and although I obviously don't know how it will turn out, having seen the place twice, talked with Nic, extensively, and done my own research I'm quietly confident it will help him. Might be worth you looking into. Good luck, whatever you decide to do. :) x
 
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