Milkmaid
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I too would be looking to Lysine/Protein.
Growing horses need quite high levels of Lysine in their diet, off the top of my head about 35gms a day on average, more if they are in work (45gms for an in training two yr old!)
It's hard to deliver enough lysine, especially for growing horses and those in high-demand activities (e.g., where muscle, blood, or hoof building should be occurring at accelerated rates). It's likely the horse isn't able to use as much as 50% of the crude protein he's being fed. Lysine is the first key to making the most of the protein you feed.
Winter grass & hay is usually very low in Lysine. So at 0.20% Lysine, 10kgs of hay would give her about 20 gms max.
It doesn`t list Lysine on the Fast Fibre breakdown so I would ring A&P and they should be able to give you accurate figures but I would imagine as mostly straw & only <10% sugarbeet it would be very low.
Linseed meal is low in lysine and inappropriate as a protein source for young animals unless the ration contains other sources of lysine and would add negligable amounts at a 200 gm feed rate
If you were to feed Prohoof at the recommended rate (57gms) you would be giving around 10gms of Lysine
From the above I would say that you need increase protein & supplement her Lysine intake in order for her to effectively build muscle. From the guestamates above, even with putting her on the full dose of Pro hoof will mean that you wouldn`t be meeting her requirements (nearly but not quite and remember those requirements increase with work load) so I would look to further supplementing/changing feed.
Sugar beet is an excellent feed, highly digestable and good source in Lysine.
Alfalfa is high quality protein and around 0.80% of dm Lysine, so can help too.
You could combine the two with Alpha Beet?
Full-fat soya is also rich in lysine and methionine but there is mixed opinions on feeding Soya meal to horses.
Alphabeet, linseed & full RDA of Pro-hoof possibly if you were feeding enough (two soaked scoops would give about 6gms Lysine)
I have had good sucess with a convalescing neddy using Happy Tummy (2kgs which is two stubbs scoops) gives 14gms of Lysine according to Dengie but it does also contain a vit/min mix so you`d have to take that into account with the ProHoof. I feed HT, linseed & straight Lysine and he looks like a different pony!
You can buy straight Lysine, I get mine from Pro Earth and it works out at less that £8 for 3 months supply!
This is a really interesting read ---->http://www.ker.com/library/health/2010/07/equine-protein-requirements.html
Growing horses need quite high levels of Lysine in their diet, off the top of my head about 35gms a day on average, more if they are in work (45gms for an in training two yr old!)
It's hard to deliver enough lysine, especially for growing horses and those in high-demand activities (e.g., where muscle, blood, or hoof building should be occurring at accelerated rates). It's likely the horse isn't able to use as much as 50% of the crude protein he's being fed. Lysine is the first key to making the most of the protein you feed.
Winter grass & hay is usually very low in Lysine. So at 0.20% Lysine, 10kgs of hay would give her about 20 gms max.
It doesn`t list Lysine on the Fast Fibre breakdown so I would ring A&P and they should be able to give you accurate figures but I would imagine as mostly straw & only <10% sugarbeet it would be very low.
Linseed meal is low in lysine and inappropriate as a protein source for young animals unless the ration contains other sources of lysine and would add negligable amounts at a 200 gm feed rate
If you were to feed Prohoof at the recommended rate (57gms) you would be giving around 10gms of Lysine
From the above I would say that you need increase protein & supplement her Lysine intake in order for her to effectively build muscle. From the guestamates above, even with putting her on the full dose of Pro hoof will mean that you wouldn`t be meeting her requirements (nearly but not quite and remember those requirements increase with work load) so I would look to further supplementing/changing feed.
Sugar beet is an excellent feed, highly digestable and good source in Lysine.
Alfalfa is high quality protein and around 0.80% of dm Lysine, so can help too.
You could combine the two with Alpha Beet?
Full-fat soya is also rich in lysine and methionine but there is mixed opinions on feeding Soya meal to horses.
Alphabeet, linseed & full RDA of Pro-hoof possibly if you were feeding enough (two soaked scoops would give about 6gms Lysine)
I have had good sucess with a convalescing neddy using Happy Tummy (2kgs which is two stubbs scoops) gives 14gms of Lysine according to Dengie but it does also contain a vit/min mix so you`d have to take that into account with the ProHoof. I feed HT, linseed & straight Lysine and he looks like a different pony!
You can buy straight Lysine, I get mine from Pro Earth and it works out at less that £8 for 3 months supply!
This is a really interesting read ---->http://www.ker.com/library/health/2010/07/equine-protein-requirements.html