Buying a horse via auction

RunToEarth said:
Same, although I'm curious about how many people actually do purchase horses in this way. Odd.
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*waves* I kinda did. But I knew the seller well (bought my previous horse from them, VERY well respected event horse breeders), and it was more a case of seeing the horse on said auction page, phoning them up, going to see it, making an offer there and then, sellers took it off FB auction page. So I used it as more of a selling platform than an auction.
 
KittenInTheXmasTree said:
They do say that it takes one to know one...
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Do you need to be black to recognise a black man? :D. Didn't take a genius (though I am one of course :D). The OP could not actually point to the horse they said they were intending to buy. I can't find the 'horse auctions online' facebook group they said it was on. I came to the conclusion that the horse did not exist, and I certainly wasn't alone in that belief.

The thread's been interesting though, hasn't it?
 
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FfionWinnie said:
Personally I wouldn't be pointing anyone to any thread group or advert of a horse I was buying. For a start they might buy it before me.
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Is a good point, but they said they had decided not to buy it and cancelled the viewing. I've found the facebook group now and asked to join, to see what on earth goes on with these auctions. It doesn't feel right to me at all to sell live animals this way. But on the other hand, I'm struggling to see a whole lot of difference between that and a low end auction like Beeston, or buying unseen.

You buy unseen from time to time like I do, what's your feeling about them?
 
I used to be on the group and my feeling is I would be surprised if many of them actually do really sell to the person who is the highest bidder. Of course it's not enforceable in any way shape or form so really quite ridiculous to see it as anything other than yet another advert group. There was plenty of drama so I left it.

I did actually even contact Kate Thurston knowing exactly who she was and what she did to Tic Toc, about a beautiful horse they had for sale but she was so uncommunicative I didn't go further than an initial enquiry then I saw a video and knew the mare wasn't for me anyway which was a relief as I felt sorry for the poor thing ending up with them.

I have seen at least two of the ones which were advertised on that group one from her, one from someone else, for sale again shortly after at a much reduced price as they were too much for the new owners.
 
It's a closed group but definitely exists ycbm, too many horses/traffic to go wading through though and I can think of lots of reasons the OP might not want to try and direct link it, in part because if you aren't a member you wouldn't see it then anyway!

As a group it mostly enables kate to pick up cheap horses under her own rules and advertise their own for sales ;)
 
ester said:
It's a closed group but definitely exists ycbm, too many horses/traffic to go wading through though and I can think of lots of reasons the OP might not want to try and direct link it, in part because if you aren't a member you wouldn't see it then anyway!

As a group it mostly enables kate to pick up cheap horses under her own rules and advertise their own for sales ;)
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They proposed recently to make it so they posted everyones adverts so effectively you wouldn't know who you were buying from, I think that would make a huge difference to bidding as its quite normal to look at profiles etc for more info on the horse and you wouldnt be able to do this, their point is that it would be more like a proper auction which I guess is quite logical
 
That doesn't sound right to me. When you buy at a physical auction you pay the auction house and they pay the seller and know who they are. The owner name, in my experience, is listed or stated at the sale. And the horse is viewed at the auction. If it's sold warranted and the buyer returns it under warranty, the auctioneer withholds the payment to the seller, the buyer does not have to sue the seller to get them to take it back. At some auctions, Doncaster for example, a vetting is available on the day. At Ascot, Brightwells performance sales and Gorsebridge, if it's still the same, they go to the sale with a vet certificate and can be returned if they don't match it.

There's a reason eBay don't allow the auction of live animals. On reflection, I think they are right.
 
the warranty thing came up too ;) WelshD, I saw I think it would fall apart if they did that as it is wide open to dodgieness then, even more so than now!
Kate just likes to get in a flap about people asking for buy it now price ebay stylee.
 
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