Buying dilemma

chaps89 said:
My mum went to see him first on weds last week, I went to see him friday, then we went back together sat am and put a deposit down. The fourth visit was to be present at the shoeing (mutual conclusion for this to happen) and so not a viewing as such. Fifth visit was vetting. Apologies for any confusion. I wouldnt normally expect to view a horse more than twice.
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No need to explain :smile3: however that sounds perfectly reasonable imo.

If it were me, she would most definitely not be getting the vetting report and I would ignore and not reply to any future correspondence from her. It's over. Move on.
 
The views aren't excessive imo. Its what i'd expect when selling one of mine, various views over a period of a week. There is no reason as to why you shouldn't get your deposit back either. Like i said earlier the vet has said the horse is ok to do low level stuff, you are wanting to do high impact on the legs over a far distance, thus the horse is not fit for your purpose.
 
It it totally depends on what the vetting was for- if it was for low level activity then the vet was right to pass the horse. If the potential buyer then decides they actually may want to do something more, why should they get the deposit back?
If vetting was for higher level activity and the horse wasn't suitable then the vet would fail it then absolutely the deposit should be returned
 
I have now seen 5 nice Irish youngsters who had "done a bit in Ireland" go horribly, irrevocably wrong..all various feet issues. 4 effectively written off, 1 PTS. So a 4 year old with any questions over its feet would be a massive no for me. FWIW I do have an ISH but he was imported as a 2 year old and I know his history. I dearly love ISH but would go on recommendation to a good breeder next time who would not push babies too early. I was always keen on the early introduction to hunting etc but have seen too many nice youngsters go wrong.
 
There is nothing wrong with splints at four, they can easily happen running around the field and are far more prevalent in young horses whose limbs are still growing. Unless you want to show him, I'd not be worried about the splint part of it, it's superficial but the rest I'd be cautious about, especially if you hope to do endurance in the future
 
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In fairness the splints themselves didnt worry me, it was more the cause behind them and the likelihood of doing what we suspect to be alot of work that young and potential impact further down the line, combined with the other issues.
Luci - my farrier had similar horror stories, im sure its not all but it does seem to be rife in ish. I would much rather go to source like you did but dont have the contacts/wouldnt know where to start and suspect it wouldnt be an affordable option for me.
Im not expecting my deposit back, yes we could maybe argue the point of not being suitable for hard work but in her eyes hes passed and I dont want it getting any nastier and I appreciate the time taken in showing him to me (although it was no different to what ive experienced or would expect from other sellers, nontheless I appreciate the time spent) However Im not feeling inclined to pass on my £200 vetting. Im not a petty or b**tchy person but if she'd asked nicely I would have obliged but the unpleasant undertone of her message just makes me want to walk away and be done with it all. Theres lessons to be learnt and I do feel awful for walking away and so last minute as that is not my style at all. Im now feeling like a deflated balloon and dont feel I can go horse hunting again for a while in case I get it wrong again somehow. I just keep telling myself everything happens for a reason.
 
I think you were right to walk away from this one tbh. Until you have passed over all the money, the seller should not assume the horse is sold IMO, just as a buyer should not assume a horse belongs to them until they have paid in full. I think the nastiness really confirms that there is something up. If it was a genuine sale, I wouldn't expect it to get nasty - exasperated yes, nasty no. Good luck finding a lovely horse op :)
 
It appears ignoring the seller has made her leave me alone so in turn she is now texting my mum, swinging from saying how heartbroken she is to how awful we are and that shes had to move yards and she put herself out so much for us etc. She still wants the vetting as the horse passed with 'flying colours' to show other purchasers, almost feel inclined to let her see it as I would probably be put off as a buyer if I saw what had been written yet know if I was buying and was told the horse had been vetted by another purchaser, passed but subsequently fallen through I probably wouldn't give it a second thought and probably be trusting/naive enough to not re-vet. I have a lot to learn when it comes to buying! Onwards and upwards as they say.
 
TheMule said:
It it totally depends on what the vetting was for- if it was for low level activity then the vet was right to pass the horse. If the potential buyer then decides they actually may want to do something more, why should they get the deposit back?
If vetting was for higher level activity and the horse wasn't suitable then the vet would fail it then absolutely the deposit should be returned
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Vets do not 'pass' or 'fail' horses they tell you about any problems and say what the horse is suitable for in their opinion. I would expect a 4 yr old to be suitable for anything I threw at it. Even if the buyer wanted to leave it in field for a couple of years and then sell on, she still needs it to be suitable to do anything so that she can sell it.The vendor should certainly the deposit back. How dare she send harrassing texts?!!
 
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I thought there were other interested parties here. The vetting details are yours you have paid for them. It is your decision and I think you have made the right decision. Just ignore the text from the seller - honestly some people.
 
If there are other interested parties why doesn't she just sell the horse to one of them and move on?

I wouldn't buy a horse who scuffed with his back legs unless I was taking on a 15+ horse for happy hacking only. There are all sorts of things that could be including hocks or SJI. Only suitable for light work based on scuffing and splints at 4 years old would have most people running out the door.

If she's not refunded your deposit then I would make sure she doesn't get the vetting certificate as she's already had 'compensation' in the form of your deposit.
 
I for one agree with others dont give in to pressure and hand over the Cert/copy of it, you paid for it, she just wants to use it as a selling tool for other prospective buyers, in a 'look he's only just been vetted heres the report you don't need to waste money on that' kind of way!
 
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