Calling Vizsla owners :)

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I absolutley love Vizslas they are beautiful dogs and the ones that i have met have the most perfect tempermant ever! I was just wondering what your views are. Im hoping to purchase a Vizsla puppy some time in the near future :) and would love to here all about yours or a Vizsla that you know :D ***Pictures please!!!***

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Ooh Vizslak will be so happy to help :)

Echodomino and whatever AliM is calling herself these days - Cliqmo I think, all own them. And a user called Showjump something or something to do with showing :p
Good luck on your search!
 
Where abouts are you Tidds? I know a fantastic Vizla breeder, my friend has one of her pups and he has the most gorgeous temperment and is a stunning looking boy. I can point you in her direction if you are after a pup :D
 
I've got Wire Viz's, soft as grease, easy to train, very affectionate, intelligent, great with kids/other animals, willing to please. Don't like being told off so don't in turn tend to misbehave much to start off with. Very versatile, good working dogs, agility dogs, obedience dogs, show dogs etc. I have heard the the Viz is a bit more lairy but have no experience with them personally, both are fantastic breeds from what I gather, I just prefer the facial fuzz lol.

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You rang?! :p :D
What is it about the breed you would like to know? (I'm hardly a font of all knowledge but am happy to do my best to help!) What is it about them that makes you want one and what is your set up? They are wonderful wonderful dogs but looks can be decieving and they certainly arent a breed that suits everyone.
And with regards to pics....well....you asked for it!! :p
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I have one too. Mine is a family pet & is the heart of our family. She is very versatile I showed her a lot & she did very well getting Best Bitch in Breed at Crufts 2009 & also my son shows her & has done since he was 6 years old.
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She also adores agility & has done some basic gundog training & likes nothing more than to put up the pheasants. They are known as Velcro dogs for good reason, they love cuddles & could happily spend most of the day cuddling.

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Vizsla's however are not for everyone. I have put a lot into Dizzy with training etc. They are not dogs who like to be left alone for any period of time & will take the dominant role (like any dog) if you allow them too. I have heard some stories of people having issues with them where children are concerned. Dizzy was brought up with my 2 & has been great, we have had our times where we have had to re-establish the boundaries, but it's worked out well. Vizslas are fantastic dogs & I can happily put you in touch with some good breeders, most will want to meet you before they consider you for a puppy, be aware of those who don't have waiting lists! The Hungarian Vizsla Society or the Hungarian Vizsla Club can help & are a wealth of knowledge. I am hoping to have a litter from Dizzy next year. I wouldn't have another type of dog again x

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HIya!!!!!!!! Small world! I recognised Dizzy dog from the first picture! We benched next to you this yr at crufts...well we didnt we set up camp on our friends bench! ;) :D
 
Awww thanks for all the lovely pictures!! :D they are all sooooo adorable! Im from the cheshire area so if any one knows any good breeders let me know. Would you recomend them as a first dog? my partner has had dogs all his life but for me it will be a first to actually own one.
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No absolutely definately a vizsla is not an ideal first dog! I would never recommend them as such and I dont think anyone would. If your partner is very experienced then you should be ok though, as long as he is around to help out a lot and you attend a good training class (one with a trainer that knows the breed...or at least is very familiar with other HPR breeds) I did ask already and then posted lots of pics which probably side tracked you...what is your set up? Do you work? How long would the dog be alone in an average day? How much time for excercise/training have you got? etc.
 
Sorry i think i did get side tracked i was too busy going Oooohhhhh Aahhhh at the piccies lol. I work full time 8.30 until 5 and my partner does earlys and lates. earlys being 7 until 2 and lates 2.30 until 9. We are looking at a house at the moment which is right opposite a huge playing field which we would take her before and after work (if he is on a early he could take her for a run around 3ish aswell. Dont get me wrong i have always been around dogs all my life and dont let them take the mick out of me i just havent "owned" one before (mum hated the smell of wet dog lol)
 
Plus at weekend we have got alot of national parks around where i live and we would take her there on a saturday/sunday for a big run x
 
Vizslak said:
No absolutely definately a vizsla is not an ideal first dog! I would never recommend them as such and I dont think anyone would.
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There must be a huge difference between the Hungarian Vizsla and the Hungarian Wirehaired Vizsla as a breed then because I'd recommend a HWV as a first dog to any body they're so easy to do. Lots of our puppy owners are first time dog owners
 
echodomino said:
There must be a huge difference between the Hungarian Vizsla and the Hungarian Wirehaired Vizsla as a breed then because I'd recommend a HWV as a first dog to any body they're so easy to do. Lots of our puppy owners are first time dog owners
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I have been told this by other wire owners too, the ones I have met do generally seem a lot calmer, quiter and laid back than the smooths. I know someone with both, he says the wire is a totally different kettle of fish to all the smooths he has had. Odd eh! I dont know why this would be true really, other than I suppose that different breed lines produce different temprements and to be fair the two are pretty far removed from one another now even in regards to looks and confo, they also seem to be breeding wires bigger and smooths smaller which makes them look worlds apart when you stick them side by side.

OP, personally I would say that your work times may not be best suited to a vizsla, especially as a lone dog from a pup. They are a breed that easily suffer from separation anxiety. If you have your heart set on one and are very thorough with your training etc you dont have the worst working hours in the world, you could manage one if you are prepared to walk the hind legs off it and provide lots of stimulation before and after work. Crate training I would suggest would be essential.
 
also...the big run is kind of essential EVERY day for a vizsla rather than just the weekends. Cliqmo has a vizz and works alot.....but the mileage she puts in on that push bike of hers every day makes me shudder!! :p :D
 
What are GWP's like temprement wise ED?? I've not really had dealing with them, do the HWV's take more from them than from Vizslas do you think? Perhaps quite simply the combination produced a calmer more stable dog.
OP it seems perhaps you should go for a wire then!
 
The HWV has always been more substantial than the HV because it's made predominantly from a HV x GWP poss Red Setter and Pudel Pointer (ah ha impressed?? lol)

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What are GWP's like temprement wise ED?? I've not really had dealing with them, do the HWV's take more from them than from Vizslas do you think? Perhaps quite simply the combination produced a calmer more stable dog.
OP it seems perhaps you should go for a wire then!
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GWPs are very headstrong but with a firm fair hand make just as fantastic a dog to live with. They've both got the same qualities they just come across in different ways. A GWP is more independent and prepared to please it's self and risk the consequence where as the HWV hates the consequence and will please you before it's self i.e you call a HWV back as it tears after something furry it'll come back quicker than a GWP who's not likely to quit until it's caught said furry!

HWV's are very sensative, you tell one off and they sulk like buggery or grovel, a GWP will just flick the V's lol. Hence the persistance required when training.

I don't mean that to sound like the GWPs are sods, they're not, it's just that's how they are compared to a HWV.

I can't really say what they've taken more from a HV or a GWP as I've not had the experience with the HV's. We had GWPs first and I would have been about 7 or 8 when we had our first HWV so have always had both growing up. Have always loved both breeds to bits but prefer the oomph in the GWP - I have terriers too so maybe that's why?! But saying that I do own 2 HWVs too.

Tough one lol. I think for a first dog I would be swaying towards a HWV
 
Smooths are very sensitive too, although I know a few that will stick the v's up but that is simply through lack of training, they respond very well to training but if you give them an inch they really do take a bloody mile, every time, without question!
Smooths didnt used to be that far off the size of wires...we are breeding fashionably small small vizzies now though. I have seen some MONSTEROUS wires out and about lately...I dont know what the breed standard height for a wire is (I thought it was only an inch or two off ours) but I'm sure some of the ones I've seen of late must be way way too big!
 
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Smooths are very sensitive too, although I know a few that will stick the v's up but that is simply through lack of training, they respond very well to training but if you give them an inch they really do take a bloody mile, every time, without question!
Smooths didnt used to be that far off the size of wires...we are breeding fashionably small small vizzies now though. I have seen some MONSTEROUS wires out and about lately...I dont know what the breed standard height for a wire is (I thought it was only an inch or two off ours) but I'm sure some of the ones I've seen of late must be way way too big!
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Nope you're right some people are breeding them to big. 24" is the top of the dog standard, Stanley is bang on that and he's our biggest, Harris is smaller so are the girls. There are a few people breeding paler fluffier coats too and trying to claim that's correct - err no an inch of fluffy hair doesn't equate to "wire"! Grr don't get me started lol.

I find even with a lot of training the GWP at times will still flick the V's :p give an inch take lots of miles - we had one, as soon as you let him off he would be at least 2 fields away or totally out of site and at first we thought he was ignoring our recall, turns out he was going that far away that, yes at first he was ignoring, but it was taking him ages just to get back to us given the ground he covered
 
I've noticed the coats too out and about...they look cute fluffy but they look so the wrong colour to have the word vizsla associated with them and have also wondered how that fluff was being termed wire coated! That coat seems to give much paler eyes too (even in relation to the coat being lighter they are lighter than the coat) it just looks all wrong!
 
We've had a couple of really teddy like fluffy coats but they've gone into pet or working homes, no where near the show ring and puppy owners have been made aware that they aren't correct.

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I'm finding this thread really interesting, have to confess I didn't realise wire haired vizslas were a different breed, I thought it was just a different coat as we have in GSDs.I've never seen one in the flesh although I have seen a number of smooths, both in the show ring and when I used to do agility. I notice yours are quite a bit lighter in colour ED than the smooths I have seen, is this due to the breed (GWP?) introduced to give the coat, is it a fairly new breed and therefore you will be breeding back to the red colour or is more variation allowed?
Sorry for the numpty questions, as you probably have realised by now us GSD owner/breeders tend to be very one breed focussed and it is quite an eye opener to learn about these different breeds.
 
I've been delving into this today ringside....general concensus is yes a wire is far far more suitable as a first dog and tend to be considerably quiter and far less demanding than smooths. So there you have it OP...go grab a wirey one! :p :D

MM...we have considerable variation in coat colour in smooths too. From general observation the more coat wires have the lighter it seems. And Echodomino can correct me if I'm wrong but I think I'm correct in saying the breed isnt THAT new...no one seems sure of the exact origin or what went into the wire but general consensus is they are mostly vizz and gwp with a few other bits thrown in ^^^^somewhere up there ED mentioned one of them I think. They were produced as a adaptation of the wimpy smooths to have a thicker and more useful coat for working purposes and to be a bit more of a 'hardy' and robust hpr than the smooths.
 
Woo hoo a post I'm relatively useful in :p

The standard says coat varies from shades of russet gold to golden sand - pale cream a no no but they're unfortunately cropping up (as the fluffies).

The breed isn't new as such but was near enough wiped out after WW1 - there's a huge chunk of records missing but *apparently* the breed was re-established in the 1930s. It is still on the rare breeds list as although they're increasing in popularity there's still not that many in comparison to the HV/GWP etc. We've only just been given ticket status as of next year.

Echo Vizslak: no one's 100% on what went into them, as I said, some of the records are missing. It's thought HV/HWV/Red Setter/Pudel Pointer and Hertha Pointer (I missed that one earlier!!) And that they were supposedly a sturdier, more protected HPR.

They have the same working abilities as the GWP/GSP (can't comment really on the HV) but are said to be more thorough as they're steadier.

Not using it as an advert or anything like that but mum's website is much more informative - I forget bits or get them the wrong way round lol!! She's got an "about" page which explains pretty much what I've said, but better :p it's www.moricroft.com
 
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