Calmers and Instant calmers?

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Firstly i was wondering if anyone has tried the apple/carrot instant calmer syringe by blue chip, and what you thought of it as i cant find anything about it other than the website?
and secondly would anyone recommend any instant calmers that they've tried

ps. its for my 6 year old connemara for competing and travelling specifically? x
 
I'd recommend NAF instant magic syringe. I don't give a full one though, I find 1/4 or 1/2 works for my boy well, just to calm him for traveling and when he gets to the show.

Every horse is different though. I've also been recommended global herbs supa calm.
 
oh - i will watch this thread with much interest as i have just ordered some equine america calmer to take the anxious 4 yr old to her first every outing - just wish they did something for humans:)
 
Most 'calmers' as sold by companies are actually just magnesium.

Magnesium deficiency is very common and some of the symptoms are muscular twitching, pain, hoof pain and agitation.

The 'calmers' do not actually calm the horse - they provide the missing mineral (magnesium) and therefore return the horse to their normal state.

Magnitude, Magic and a host of other 'calmers' are just over priced magnesium - often in a cheap form that is unpalatable without all the fillers and sweeteners they add.

You can buy heavy grade, 85% magnesium oxide (the most absorbable form) from here
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAGNESIUM-...#ht_1296wt_952

If a horse responds positively to the use of a magnesium based 'calmer' then you can be certain that it is deficient in a mineral that is essential for over 300 actions in the body and is crying out for help.

The whole concept of companies selling 'calmers' and pretending they've magically calmed the horse, while keeping the owner in the dark as to what was wrong in the first place really makes me sick.

The Blue chip one is a mixture of magnesium, L-tryptphan (an limiting amino acid - it is an amino acid that is required by the horse in dietary form - they can't synthesize it. But a horse with access to grazing and forage should have adequate amounts) and Vitamin C (again, not required to be supplemented at all - unlike humans. Adequate amounts in grazing and forage. Over supplying it will create an over absorption of iron, which is bad).

They don't seem to list anything other that those ingredients - which makes me suspicious too.
 
I agree with the above post to a point my spanish is nut no doubt about that but he fed simple system good grazing a balancer and excellent hay so how does he miss out on magnesium and i know the calmer works because when i ran out he nearly killed me again. And the only thing that showed in his blood test high sugar levels so how do i address this problem what else do i give to stop him being short of it. Because somewhere i must be feeding wrong
 
I had tried many of the magnesium calmers (most of the ones listed above) and none of them worked - so with my mare it wasn't a magnesium deficiency. Oxyshot works differently - it delivers more oxygen to the brain, allowing more rational behaviour and better concentration (even when she is highly stressed/excited).
 
traceyann said:
I agree with the above post to a point my spanish is nut no doubt about that but he fed simple system good grazing a balancer and excellent hay so how does he miss out on magnesium and i know the calmer works because when i ran out he nearly killed me again. And the only thing that showed in his blood test high sugar levels so how do i address this problem what else do i give to stop him being short of it. Because somewhere i must be feeding wrong
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Is it a magnesium calmer?

You can only provide what magnesium the horse requires. Excess will be urinated out.

The bulk of your horse's food and nutrition is the grass and hay.

When you say excellent hay and good grazing - what do you mean? How do you know? Have you had either laboratory tested?

You are trusting the Simple System and balancer to cover all the other nutrients....but how do the manufacturers of those feeds know what is in your hay or grass to balance it accordingly?

If your horse is calmer on a magnesium based calmer then he is telling you he is deficient in magnesium - there is no other magic behind it.

It could be you have a very high phosphorous level in your hay or grass. It could be a very high iron level. The calcium level could be off......

The gold standard in feeding nowadays is to turn your back on feed companies, get a forage analysis of your grass or hay and balance your minerals accordingly.

If that isn't something you can see happening - then there are only two supplements (that I know of yet) on the market that I would say have been created low enough in iron and high enough in copper and zinc to be anywhere near helpful.
Pro Hoof
and
Equimin's META Balance (order by telephone as it's 'off the menu').
 
I cut my own hay so will get it tested this year. I get a contractor in who treated horses fields for years so just let him get on with it as i have no experience with that. worthwhile getting it tested though thanks
 
Oberon said:
Most 'calmers' as sold by companies are actually just magnesium.

Magnesium deficiency is very common and some of the symptoms are muscular twitching, pain, hoof pain and agitation.

The 'calmers' do not actually calm the horse - they provide the missing mineral (magnesium) and therefore return the horse to their normal state.

Magnitude, Magic and a host of other 'calmers' are just over priced magnesium - often in a cheap form that is unpalatable without all the fillers and sweeteners they add.

You can buy heavy grade, 85% magnesium oxide (the most absorbable form) from here
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAGNESIUM-...#ht_1296wt_952

If a horse responds positively to the use of a magnesium based 'calmer' then you can be certain that it is deficient in a mineral that is essential for over 300 actions in the body and is crying out for help.

The whole concept of companies selling 'calmers' and pretending they've magically calmed the horse, while keeping the owner in the dark as to what was wrong in the first place really makes me sick.

The Blue chip one is a mixture of magnesium, L-tryptphan (an limiting amino acid - it is an amino acid that is required by the horse in dietary form - they can't synthesize it. But a horse with access to grazing and forage should have adequate amounts) and Vitamin C (again, not required to be supplemented at all - unlike humans. Adequate amounts in grazing and forage. Over supplying it will create an over absorption of iron, which is bad).

They don't seem to list anything other that those ingredients - which makes me suspicious too.
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I completely agree with the above, I use magnesium oxide and it has done my boy wonders!!
 
Zylkene is working wonders on my horse thats in jail just now took 3 days to work but he is so much calmer and my stable walls are much happier:rolleyes:
 
Oberon said:
You can only provide what magnesium the horse requires. Excess will be urinated out.


If your horse is calmer on a magnesium based calmer then he is telling you he is deficient in magnesium - there is no other magic behind it.

I would say have been created low enough in iron and high enough in copper and zinc to be anywhere near helpful.
Pro Hoof
and
Equimin's META Balance (order by telephone as it's 'off the menu').
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I have just been in correspondence with Matt from Equimins and he recommends the Equimins Advance for my boy as it is balanced for UK use, including Magnesium.
I currently also feed 7gms Magnesium Oxide per day as we are in a low magnesium area.
I also feed 10gms of Equimins Advance [he gets some Fast Fibre]
I feed 15gms Steady up [magnesium and herbal and pre and pro biotics] when he is hyper, and I would add more on the day if he was travelling, I know the pony will eat it.
If it works for your horse, regardless of the science, i would give it a try.
 
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