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"Please beware of SHELLEY ANTHONY from MILES TRANSPORT kent, she has (recently i believe) been buying companion/broodmare and selling them for 3/4 times the price as riding horses! Poor horses have both been in pain whilst being ridden in their new homes, luckily Smokey, who you may have read about on H&H, has now managed to go back to original owners and the lady who brought pixie is finding her a real broodmare home. She tells the orginal owners she has stallions to breed with, acres of land and they will stay with her forever then sells them on a matter of days later. When the orginal owner of pixie called her to confront her she insisted pixie was still in her field despite her knowing the new owner had her and her passport! Both cases are going to trading standards and the police are aware of her actions too. This is just a warning to stay away from any horses she may be selling and personally I would stay away from her transport company too, she clearly has no care for horses whatsoever :-( Please spread the word!"

I was reading the thread on Smokey. Why do people have to be so mean to animals just to make extra £££'s
 
This is probably controversial but people shouldn't be selling on their "in pain" companion horses in the first place. People should take responsibility for their animals. If they have broken something or it has gone lame and can't be fixed, do the decent thing and either PTS or retire it yourself. Don't pass it on. Same goes for broodmares... if it's lame, why put extra strain on the body and breed from it?

I'm not condoning what this woman has allegedly done but there are bigger issues going on here.

Secondly, the buyers should have horses vetted before they part with their cash. If a horse is in pain then the vetting will pick it up. If it's been given bute, again a vetting with a blood test will pick that up. I bought my new horse from people I know yet he still had a 5 stage vetting with blood tests.
 
chestnut cob said:
This is probably controversial but people shouldn't be selling on their "in pain" companion horses in the first place. People should take responsibility for their animals. If they have broken something or it has gone lame and can't be fixed, do the decent thing and either PTS or retire it yourself. Don't pass it on. Same goes for broodmares... if it's lame, why put extra strain on the body and breed from it?

I'm not condoning what this woman has allegedly done but there are bigger issues going on here.

Secondly, the buyers should have horses vetted before they part with their cash. If a horse is in pain then the vetting will pick it up. If it's been given bute, again a vetting with a blood test will pick that up. I bought my new horse from people I know yet he still had a 5 stage vetting with blood tests.
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Exactly this. Although this woman is at fault, so are the original owners, and those who bought from her.
 
I particuarly don't understand why anyone would think it fair to sell an in pain/unrideable/elderly mare "as a broodmare". :eek: Unless the mare is top quality, healthy and young, how irresponsible to start breeding from her!

This woman sounds despicable. But I agree that some of the fault lies with people offloading their responsibilities for their unsound horses.
 
Eughh don't even get me started on the whole "It's broke, lets breed it!" fiasco.

Just because a mare has a womb does not mean that lots of little badly conformed, low quality foalies should be springing from it!!

Also, as previously mentioned why add the extra strain on the mare if she is already 'in pain'?

In my opinion tere is more than just the dealer woman at fault here.
 
chestnut cob said:
This is probably controversial but people shouldn't be selling on their "in pain" companion horses in the first place. People should take responsibility for their animals. If they have broken something or it has gone lame and can't be fixed, do the decent thing and either PTS or retire it yourself. Don't pass it on. Same goes for broodmares... if it's lame, why put extra strain on the body and breed from it?

I'm not condoning what this woman has allegedly done but there are bigger issues going on here.

Secondly, the buyers should have horses vetted before they part with their cash. If a horse is in pain then the vetting will pick it up. If it's been given bute, again a vetting with a blood test will pick that up. I bought my new horse from people I know yet he still had a 5 stage vetting with blood tests.
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Exactly this. I have huge sympathy for the poor horses that have become entangled in this awful woman's evil web. But my sympathy for the original owner's who sold them on is absolutely non existent. We read their crocodile tears, self absorbed, attention seeking threads over and over again about the dreadful fate of poor 'X' at the hands of whoever they have off loaded 'X' onto.

If you cannot care for your elderly or injured horse yourself then do the right thing and have it humanely PTS.:(
 
I could have cried when I read this thread that other people have been sold horses from her just like I was. I thought I'd just been unlucky at the time with the horse I bought as she came across as being such a nice and genuine lady and I really trusted her. To describe the horse she sold me, if I was to use car terms well it was a death trap, although I soon discovered the horse was clearly in pain, but strangley rode beautifully when I tried it before buying it. It was actually totally neurotic when I got it home (let me just add I spent a fortune on vets/chiropractors/saddlers and dentists to make sure I had done everything for this horse but it still bucked really badly, kicked, dumped me on the road. This was advertised as a 1st horse. I eventually deemed it was unsafe to be ridden any further and valued my neck more. I also did the kindest thing I could have possibly done for this horse to ensure it never fell into the wrong hands again. It's taken me a very long time to pay off the debts, not to mention the total heartache that this caused me and all my family.So all I can say is proceed with caution whey buying horses from anywhere, I am going to find it hard to trust anyone again.
 
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sapphire210 said:
I could have cried when I read this thread that other people have been sold horses from her just like I was. I thought I'd just been unlucky at the time with the horse I bought as she came across as being such a nice and genuine lady and I really trusted her. To describe the horse she sold me, if I was to use car terms well it was a death trap, although I soon discovered the horse was clearly in pain, but strangley rode beautifully when I tried it before buying it. It was actually totally neurotic when I got it home (let me just add I spent a fortune on vets/chiropractors/saddlers and dentists to make sure I had done everything for this horse but it still bucked really badly, kicked, dumped me on the road. This was advertised as a 1st horse. I eventually deemed it was unsafe to be ridden any further and valued my neck more. I also did the kindest thing I could have possibly done for this horse to ensure it never fell into the wrong hands again. It's taken me a very long time to pay off the debts, not to mention the total heartache that this caused me and all my family.So all I can say is proceed with caution whey buying horses from anywhere, I am going to find it hard to trust anyone again.
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What a terrible thing to go through. Your poor family. Who knows what that poor animal had gone through before you took him and and did the kindest thing by him. :( He was lucky to end his days with you rather than be passed on again.

Someone out there presumably sold that horse to this person rather than doing the right thing like you did. To me the fault is shared by the dealer and the person who passed on an unridable horse.
 
I agree with chestnut cob.
Although this woman is horrible person. The original owners are a big problem and the new owned obviously not sensible buyers for for not doing checks and vettings etc.
 
LollyDolly said:
Eughh don't even get me started on the whole "It's broke, lets breed it!" fiasco.

Just because a mare has a womb does not mean that lots of little badly conformed, low quality foalies should be springing from it!!

Also, as previously mentioned why add the extra strain on the mare if she is already 'in pain'?
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Took the words from my mouth!
 
Totally agree chestnut cob!!

I'm in the same situation with my mare and I would never dream of passing her on!! She is my responsibility!!

The vet actually suggested to me about using her as a brood mare as she has very good bloodlines and would be a fab mum but I wouldn't risk putting her through that as I don't know what that kind of strain would do to her!! not to mention the fact that I dont know if the problem is hereditary.

I think people give their unriddable horses away as an easy get out clause as they are too coward to make 'that' decision.

I'm not condoning what the dealer done by any means though but if people done the right thing by their horses in the first place, these con artists wouldnt be able to get away with stuff like this.

Sorry rant over lol
 
Kelly1982 said:
I'm in the same situation with my mare and I would never dream of passing her on!! She is my responsibility!!

I'm not condoning what the dealer done by any means though but if people done the right thing by their horses in the first place, these con artists wouldnt be able to get away with stuff like this.
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This is why I couldn't pass Boris onto anywhere else because I actually CARE about what happens to him, not like so many others (and believe me there are plenty of them) whom I could mention.

And con-artists - definitely :mad:
 
sapphire210 said:
I could have cried when I read this thread that other people have been sold horses from her just like I was. I thought I'd just been unlucky at the time with the horse I bought as she came across as being such a nice and genuine lady and I really trusted her. To describe the horse she sold me, if I was to use car terms well it was a death trap, although I soon discovered the horse was clearly in pain, but strangley rode beautifully when I tried it before buying it. It was actually totally neurotic when I got it home (let me just add I spent a fortune on vets/chiropractors/saddlers and dentists to make sure I had done everything for this horse but it still bucked really badly, kicked, dumped me on the road. This was advertised as a 1st horse. I eventually deemed it was unsafe to be ridden any further and valued my neck more. I also did the kindest thing I could have possibly done for this horse to ensure it never fell into the wrong hands again. It's taken me a very long time to pay off the debts, not to mention the total heartache that this caused me and all my family.So all I can say is proceed with caution whey buying horses from anywhere, I am going to find it hard to trust anyone again.
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Horrible situation but well done you!
 
blucanoo1990 said:
I agree with chestnut cob.
Although this woman is horrible person. The original owners are a big problem and the new owned obviously not sensible buyers for for not doing checks and vettings etc.
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Can I Just say I know exactly where you are coming from with your comments about having the horse vetted and can understand why you feel that I am at fault here but please read on: -

The even sadder thing about this situation is that I did the right thing and had this horse vetted before I bought it, and it passed with flying colours - need I say more. I am not naming the vet in question here but many of you will already know who this is. See why I will find it hard to ever trust anyone again.
 
You have to remember that unless you are on a forum like this you are so blinkered and live a sheltered yard life unaware of the misery that 'broken' horses can go through/end up! having a horse that you can no longer keep due to injury and you find a so called home that means she will be living out the rest of her days in acres of lush grass would make anyone think they are doing the right thing and having PTS would be the wrong thing!! in reality us on the forum know too well what can happen and it changes the way we would do things with our horses, but some people don't have that knowledge, you can't blame them. I think i'd be too scared to buy a horse with all these dodgy dealers and fake vettings. :( Hopefully Epona stars can put a stop to a good load of them :D
 
FionaM12 said:
I particuarly don't understand why anyone would think it fair to sell an in pain/unrideable/elderly mare "as a broodmare". :eek: Unless the mare is top quality, healthy and young, how irresponsible to start breeding from her!

This woman sounds despicable. But I agree that some of the fault lies with people offloading their responsibilities for their unsound horses.
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^^^

Absolutely this.
 
But if people are not allowed to talk about it, it will carry on! Quite surprised this thread is still here as it names and shames, maybe if other threads talking about difficult times were allowed to stay, I wouldnt have been in the situation I was ( and still am) in now!
 
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