Forestfreedom
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Can a horse of rose grey colouring, ( Horse breeds that have a lot of grey in their breed such as Andalusians) be born and stay rose grey their whole life ? as I have seen rose grey horses that have turned white.
Can a rose grey horse stay rose grey?
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Meowy Catkin
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They are not born rose grey. The term tends to be used for chestnut born horses (sometimes a bright bay) with a grey gene (or genes) that are greying out and are at the stage of being a reasonably even mix of white and chestnut hairs which results in a 'pink' look. They will continue to grey as they age, possibly even darken and go through a 'dapple grey' stage until they lighten and go white. After that they probably will develop fleabites.
AandK
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This exactly what my 22yo has done colour wise. Rose grey as a 6yo, then greyed out to white and he is now very fleabitten.
ElectricChampagne
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My 12 year old did this as well. Was born bay, turned a darker grey black colour, then "rose grey" then dapple and now is a gorgeous fleabitten colour.
Pippity
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You seem to have a lot of interest in horse colour genetics. I'm sure there are plenty of books that could give you a far more thorough knowledge than just constantly asking a forum.
Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
My grey was born chestnut, went through a pink phase (chestnut and white hairs) around a yearling to 3 years, then turned dappled, and now, at 14 is nearly completely white.
Elf On A Shelf
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My American lad is registered as Rose Gray/Roan. He was born black, went solid steel gray, then a beaitiful rocking horse dappled gray and has gradually faded out to white with black fleabites. He still has a bit of silver in the top of his tail, top of his mane/forelock and his knees and hocks. He is 16yo this year so he hasnt done too badly! Though he has far more fleabites that I would like ...
Mule
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My grey skipped the white stage and went straight from light dapple to fleabitten
Nudibranch
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In fairness there are one or two other posters who constantly ask similar questions when they'd be better of getting some riding lessons or an instructor. It's a forum - people ask questions.
Floxie
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And if they looked it up in a book then I wouldn't learn the answer, because it wasn't a question I thought to ask myself
I quite like learning more from these threads.I always thought dapple greys and fleabitten were totally different - I hadn't realised until very recently that dapples can develop fleabites once they've greyed out.
Dollbird
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That came across as a bit mean. Maybe the poster enjoys the interaction with others.
ycbm
Overwhelmed
And if they looked it up in a book then I wouldn't learn the answer, because it wasn't a question I thought to ask myself
I always thought dapple greys and fleabitten were totally different - I hadn't realised until very recently that dapples can develop fleabites once they've greyed out.
And some can have fleabites when they aren't greys, just to confuse! My appt X trotter has 'greyed out' very fleabitten all over his front half, but tests as non grey. This picture was taken a few months ago, this morning I noticed that his mane is now all silver.
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Pippity
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And if they looked it up in a book then I wouldn't learn the answer, because it wasn't a question I thought to ask myself
I always thought dapple greys and fleabitten were totally different - I hadn't realised until very recently that dapples can develop fleabites once they've greyed out.
As long as people are getting something out of it! But the OP seems to have a lot of fairly basic questions about colour that could be fairly easily cleared up. I'll just continue bypassing the threads.
Annagain
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Monty did too - in the shedding of one winter coat! He was dapple grey in the winter and by June he was fleabitten!
ester
Not slacking multitasking
they wouldn't be called flea bites though ycbm
ycbm
Overwhelmed
Why not? They are the same, small patches of darker colour in a white coat.
Clearly not a flea bitten grey, given his genes, but I can't see why he wouldn't be called a flea bitten Appaloosa.
ester
Not slacking multitasking
because flea bites are associated with greys. I would never know anyone call marks on a varnish flea bites, they would just say varnish.
Steorra
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A rose grey will always fade out, but strawberry roan coats can look fairly similar and keep their colouring.
ycbm
Overwhelmed
The only definition of fleabitten I can find is darker flecks of hair in a white coat. 'Varnish' doesn't cover it as a description because the solid colour on ears and joints is also varnish. His ears aren't fleabitten, they are varnished. But his neck and the front half of his body either has to be described as 'fleabitten' of 'flecked with varnish' and it just seems daft not to say it as you see it, fleabitten.
Is there some rule somewhere that only a grey can be described as fleabitten?
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ester
Not slacking multitasking
Just trying to help. If you said he was fleabitten on a colour-based group it would be corrected. You can of course call them whatever you like.
The solid colour isn't varnish, it's the effect that is, the solid are the bits that haven't yet varnished.
The solid colour isn't varnish, it's the effect that is, the solid are the bits that haven't yet varnished.