can anyone identify this plant?.

[TJ&Ozzie]

Oh God! Runs off and shoots self for having disgusting natural fields and woods and equally disgustingly healthy horses

Ummm, amongst that bunch of weeds and ground wasting crapola, we have, willow, elderflower, goldenrod (young tops good for them) nettles, mullein, asian lilies, aspen, redwood, dogwood oh and loads of grass and herbage including alfalfa, timothy, wild oats, sunflowers, wild grapevines, raspberries, blackberries, strawberries all of which they eat when they want. It may not be pristine and pretty to look at but half the stuff my horses get to browse of their own free choice is in the additives a lot of people have to buy.

How wonderful to see horses happily grazing a real meadow. My front garden has recently become a garden after years of being a conservation strip at the side of large arable field. My 2 love grazing it as a treat, its full of all sorts of different plants and grasses.

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

Originally Posted by Leviathan View Post
Personally speaking what ever it is I would not like it in my fields .

All I want is grasses, anything else the weed killer controls or is there to control it .

The way I look at it is all the space weeds like this take up are.

a, valuable area grass should be
b, could be potentially harmful
c, makes the filed look unkempt / or eye sore.


I like to look at a grass covered weed free, poo free fields.
This type of grazing = Laminitis.

right so we need our fields covered in docks ragwort and bind weed and butter cups right

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

Oh God! Runs off and shoots self for having disgusting natural fields and woods and equally disgustingly healthy horses

Ummm, amongst that bunch of weeds and ground wasting crapola, we have, willow, elderflower, goldenrod (young tops good for them) nettles, mullein, asian lilies, aspen, redwood, dogwood oh and loads of grass and herbage including alfalfa, timothy, wild oats, sunflowers, wild grapevines, raspberries, blackberries, strawberries all of which they eat when they want. It may not be pristine and pretty to look at but half the stuff my horses get to browse of their own free choice is in the additives a lot of people have to buy.

Why do people like you act like a total ****

Taken what I said as literally grass nothing else

Sheesh if you can't work it out what I said between the lines then well no hope.

Do I really have to spell it out that simply for you??

When I say "Grasses" I mean all green edible plants to horses including other plants .

 

[touchstone]

Why do people like you act like a total ****

Taken what I said as literally grass nothing else

Sheesh if you can't work it out what I said between the lines then well no hope.

Do I really have to spell it out that simply for you??

When I say "Grasses" I mean all green edible plants to horses including other plants .

But surely grasses are, well, grasses

My paddock is unfertilised apart from the droppings and urine left by sheep, I only use herbicides sparingly on things like dock and spear thistle, I took on the pasture that had been heavily fertilsed with nitrogen and sown with ryegrass. I am slowly getting more varieties of grass and valuable varieties of 'weeds' growing. So much nicer than the monoculture ryegrass.

Enfys your grazing looks fab!

 

[AmyMay]

But surely grasses are, well, grasses

I would agree.

 

[TGM]

When I say "Grasses" I mean all green edible plants to horses including other plants .

Can you imagine the chaos in life that would result if we all rewrote the dictionary to give words our own personal definitions!

If you want to communicate your ideas clearly with other people - whether on a forum, in spoken discussion, or written form - it is probably advisable to stick with the accepted definition of words, rather create your own.

 

[Miss L Toe]

Can you imagine the chaos in life that would result if we all rewrote the dictionary to give words our own personal definitions!

If you want to communicate your ideas clearly with other people - whether on a forum, in spoken discussion, or written form - it is probably advisable to stick with the accepted definition of words, rather create your own.

psml

 

[PolarSkye]

Personally speaking what ever it is I would not like it in my fields .

All I want is grasses, anything else the weed killer controls or is there to control it .

The way I look at it is all the space weeds like this take up are.

a, valuable area grass should be
b, could be potentially harmful
c, makes the filed look unkempt / or eye sore.


I like to look at a grass covered weed free, poo free fields.

Leviathan . . . I'm not going to argue with "poo free" . . . we poo pick our field every day and our worm counts and the health of our paddock speak for themselves . . . however, can you define what you mean by a weed? Anything that's not grass? Anything that's palatable to horses?

In another thread you mentioned nettles as an eyesore . . . but horses love them and will self medicate on them when they need them. What about bindweed? Cleavers? Admittedly those could all live on the periphery of the paddock . . . so what about what makes up the actual pasture? Are all weeds unacceptable? What about wild thyme? Mint? Clover? Low-growing thistles? Wood violets?

P

 

[stencilface]

Definitely black knapweed

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1024&bih=566&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=black+knapweed+leaves

 

[Enfys]

Why do people like you act like a total ****
Guess I felt like it at the time Sorry, failed miserably at reading between the lines, or rather asterisks in this case

Taken what I said as literally grass nothing else

Sheesh if you can't work it out what I said between the lines then well no hope.I am doomed obviously, my life is ruined as I said, So shoot me


Do I really have to spell it out that simply for you?? It would seem so

When I say "Grasses" I mean all green edible plants to horses including other plants .

Oh I missed that little shot!

Pull your head in, do.

So, you said grasses and meant green stuff, so please say green stuff then, because, believe it or not, I (and I am not alone in that apparently) mistakenly as it turns out, thought you alluded exclusively to grasses, of which there are several varieties, especially when combined with the rest of your original comment. It may be a colloquial term for your area perhaps as you did mention that your land manager used that term and had been there for absolutely yonks so presumably he is a local.

I had no idea I should read between the lines, next time I bother to read a post of yours I will read it very carefully and look for possible alternative meanings.

Anything other than grasses would be herbs/herbage/weeds in my book, but that is my book, not yours, same destination different journey that's all. So, now you have clarified what you meant, we are all quite clear what you mean and everything is all hunky dory in HoHo land, back to bickering, wonderful.

You like pristine, weed free, poo free fields which is wonderful, great, marvellous, I am happy that you are happy, and at the end of the day who really gives a tinkers cuss?

Your fields.
Your horses.
Your business

Being honest, I don't care about yours anymore than you care about mine.

 

[Enfys]

I have one word to say : Graminoids

Oh, and a few others too: OP, I apologise for railroading your thread.

 

[Kaylum]

The problem is the types of grasses. That's what some people don't understand and it's why if they put as much money into sorting out their pasture as they have to sorting out their horses laminitis problems their horses would be a lot more healthy. We compete off grass (or rather out of the field which is fill of different plants) as we have a diverse meadow. Never fed vits or minerals, they are so full of energy and glowing coats and healthy hooves. Feed naturally and learn what to feed. Also yard owners should have good knowledge of meadow management. It's a good excuse for those at livery to blame them but it's your horse your vets bill.

 

[PolarSkye]

The problem is the types of grasses. That's what some people don't understand and it's why if they put as much money into sorting out their pasture as they have to sorting out their horses laminitis problems their horses would be a lot more healthy. We compete off grass (or rather out of the field which is fill of different plants) as we have a diverse meadow. Never fed vits or minerals, they are so full of energy and glowing coats and healthy hooves. Feed naturally and learn what to feed. Also yard owners should have good knowledge of meadow management. It's a good excuse for those at livery to blame them but it's your horse your vets bill.

. . . while I agree with the sentiment, it isn't always that simple . . . some YOs don't take kindly to being told what to do with their pasture . . . it's their pasture, their rules. And, yes, I know, livery clients should vote with their feet . . . but how many even know what to look for/ask/request?

P

 

[touchstone]

I think another issue is that there is what people call 'good pasture' and there is 'good for horses pasture' There are plenty of people who prefer lush heavily fertilised rye grass over 'poorer' pasture for their horses.

 

[Kaylum]

. . . while I agree with the sentiment, it isn't always that simple . . . some YOs don't take kindly to being told what to do with their pasture . . . it's their pasture, their rules. And, yes, I know, livery clients should vote with their feet . . . but how many even know what to look for/ask/request?

P

This is my point exactly. I cannot get my head round why horse owners dont wise up a bit. they spend hundreds of pounds of buying a saddle to fit their horse but whats the point of a good saddle when you dont have a horse to ride. At the end of the day you choose to own a horse you need to know how to look after it.