Can I have your thoughts on this horse please?

First thought - why is she doing dressage in a body protector? :eek: Are you looking for a rodeo type? :p
 
Ha ha no I'm not planning on doing rodeo, however I know a lot of people who ride in BP majority of the times, so no that doesn't put me off at all.
 
e21631 said:
To be honest if I'm selling a horse and someone requests videos/extra pictures I assume they are timewasting; if you are seriously interested in buying then you will go and view.

nice horse.
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Well I'm on the other side of the coin, the times I've travelled for a couple of hours to then see the horse move and think why have I bothered.

Unfortunately people misdescribe their horses and tbh if I'm looking for a dressage horse I would want to see its paces before I view.

I certainly don't consider it as time wasting and would be interested as to why people would?
 
why do you assume that? If a buyer is coming from a long way away I would prefer them to ask for videos and photos to make sure the horse is right and doesn't waste anyone's time! likewise in vice versa.
 
Halfpint2 said:
Well I'm on the other side of the coin, the times I've travelled for a couple of hours to then see the horse move and think why have I bothered.

Unfortunately people misdescribe their horses and tbh if I'm looking for a dressage horse I would want to see its paces before I view.

I certainly don't consider it as time wasting and would be interested as to why people would?
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Just that IME people who are serious buyers are prepared to drive a couple of hours to look at a horse and then there are those that sit at home on their computers and email sellers asking for videos to watch.....
I'm not suggesting you aren't serious, just that as a seller it puts me off (rightly or wrongly I don't know!)
 
I just don't have hours to waste, busy mum of two boys and also I would be dragging my instructor down with me to assess the horse also.

I don't think, no I knowshe would be totally peed off if her time wasted also when she could be teaching and earning.

I guess we'll agree to disagree on this one e21631:p
 
Hmm can't tell much from that one picture really. Would a "serious buyer" be able to judge the horse's dressage talent based on one photo, I doubt it.

As a seller I'd be happy to provide extra photos/videos, its pointless going to view a horse if you can tell straight away its not right. A lot of the well known dressage dealers over here and in Europe provide videos, either on their websites or I have also been sent them via DVD. Why would you go to view a horse if the video proves its paces are lousy??!
 
IME, 'can I have a video' comes from the same people who say 'can I have it on loan/ pay in instalments/ pay half the asking price etc. etc.

If I want to buy a horse I don't hang arouind, I get in my car and go and see it

anyway.... just an observation! ;-)
 
I have to say I think I agree with e21631 to some extent. I find the buyers who want endless videos and photos tend to dither and deliberate and then ask for more photos from different angles etc. The ones who come and view the horses from the advert (after speaking to me of course) tend to be much more decisive and normal make an offer on the spot or at leats later that day.

The exception being when I have sold foals to the other end of the country and they have asked for videos and more photos as its too far for them to come in person.
 
I certainly asked for more pictures and video before I went to view my horse, and after that I did buy, so we are not all time waisters :)

In answer to the op question from the picture I can see I like the horse and want to see more
 
If I was looking for a horse I would want photos of both sides , front and back untacked plus a video if they had it.

I have driven hundreds of miles to see misdescribed horses, never again. Fuel is expensive and so is wasted time.

When my friend recently sold her gelding we had photos and a video ready to send out. He sold the next day.

I wouldn't drive for miles to see something unless I had viewed pictures before hand. People miss things like capped hocks out and embellish.

To me sellers who don't have decent pictures are the timewasters. If you want to sell you have the information ready.
 
I would be dubious of anyone feeling the need to wear body protector.looks a nice horse but quite keen and overbent. I would certainly like to see more if it was far away ,too often horses wrongly described so the more you can see beforehand the better IMHO.
 
I asked for more photos of a horse I was interested in, the lady sent them, they looked good so I drove 110 miles to view & bought him.

Wouldn't want to drive a round trip of 220 miles to view something without having seen a few photos of him 'in action'. I want to compete, & headshots & the 'horse tied up outside stable' shots don't show me how he moves etc.
 
volatis said:
I have to say I think I agree with e21631 to some extent. I find the buyers who want endless videos and photos tend to dither and deliberate and then ask for more photos from different angles etc. The ones who come and view the horses from the advert (after speaking to me of course) tend to be much more decisive and normal make an offer on the spot or at leats later that day.

The exception being when I have sold foals to the other end of the country and they have asked for videos and more photos as its too far for them to come in person.
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I think the difference might be that you, as a professional (meaning a professional in the industry, not necessarily a dealer), will provide an accurate description and representative photos in your advertising, which isn't always the case for private sellers. Also, your reputation depends on providing quality service and targeting your market. So if YOU told me you had a nice horse that was going to do the job I wanted (even if all I knew about your was what I'd read on here), I'd trust that at least you believed it and knew enough to judge not only your own horse but the validity of my request. It's "feel" and experience as much as anything. Also, I suspect you would not sell a horse off a photo like that. ;)

Not to single out any particular horse, but from that photo I can't tell much about the horse itself and what I do see gives me pause. If I also had a standing side shot or maybe some video then I might have enough information to judge if it would do the job I wanted.

That said, I've been involved in one way or the other in many sales over the years and I KNOW there are people out there "collecting" packages on horses they can't afford/couldn't ride/don't have any intention of buying. Just as there are people who want the opportunity to sit on horses they have no actual interest in purchasing. (The most amazing one I ever had was a professional who came with her client to see a very expensive horse my employer was selling, we went through the whole routine and then, at the end, she said, "Oh, I don't think it's the horse for us. I just really wanted to see your new place - everyone said it's fantastic!" Arrrrrrgh! I thought my boss was going to kill her.)

It's very tricky to sort out which is which but once people get burned - either way - they tend to get a lot more sticky in the future.

I wonder if people requesting more info would get a better reception if they stated why they needed it, from the information already given. If someone said to me, "I'm not prepared to take your word it's easy to ride to a jump, show me video," I suspect, to be truthful, I'd actually work harder to produce as much accurate footage as possible, than if they said, "He's very pretty, can we see him jump some more jumps? I'm only jumping 80cm now but I need to know he'll jump 1.40m classes for me someday." ;)
 
The reason I have asked for video footage is to see his movement in all gaits, my current horse does not have the paces that seems to be required in dressage tests even at the lowest level.

Yesterday I saw a mare who achieved a high percentage in a recent test and that was purely on her trot, the other paces were , well putting it bluntly very poor. Had I seen a video of all gaits then I would not have travelled to see her, she was not happy with the contact and really was not as described.
All this could not have been seen from the supplied advert photo.

I have started to explain why I would like to see video footage and what I want from my next purchase,and hope they are as honest with me as I am with them.

But fully appreciate you get trophy hunters in collecting videos with no real intention of either buying or viewing said horse. But that is the same in all areas of selling and buying. The phrase a tyre kicker springs to mins with people who have nothing better to do than look round cars with no intention of buying!
 
In answer to OPs question, the horse looks tense in the neck and looks to be opening its mouth. I too would ask for more pictures before I viewed.
 
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