Can some body look at these horses movements for me?

She looks really stiff behind particularly on offside to me. She seems to have limited hock movement. Maybe you could try a bute trial and see if she moves differently on bute?
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What was she on box rest for? To me she looks lame on three legs? But had she literally just come out of the box after 18 months or had she been turned out/done a proper walk rehab programme?
 
I don't know a lot as she isn't my horse. I know the fall caused a fracture to her greater trecher?? (not sure of spelling). She is healed now but has slight sacroiliac issues although nothing showed up on the scans. I don't think she done the propper walk programme. I am pretty sure she was brought straight out of the field and into the school.
 
She doesn't look right at all- generally weak and very stiff behind. When you say this was her first bit of schooling after box rest, do you mean she has done the fittening walk work etc. or is this literally the first time you have ridden her? I would say that the surface is not helping her, and she looks like she might find straight line work easier, as she appears to struggle even more around the corners at times.

Has the vet seen her work in the school? If not, I suggest you get a vet out again before she is ridden.

If you really can't tell she is unsound from that video, I suggest you get someone more experienced in to help you bring her back into work.
 
leanne_dando said:
I don't know a lot as she isn't my horse. I know the fall caused a fracture to her greater trecher?? (not sure of spelling). She is healed now but has slight sacroiliac issues although nothing showed up on the scans. I don't think she done the propper walk programme. I am pretty sure she was brought straight out of the field and into the school.
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After 18 months of re-hab that is completely unfair. Are you considering re-homing the horse?
 
Chronic sacro illiac dysfunction won't show up on scans. My WB's didn't, but he was written off with them and I got LOU for him. A vet and physio should be able to advise on specific exercises to build up the correct muscles to strengthen around the SI joint. Circle work is really bad for horses with SI issues.
 
Penumbra said:
She doesn't look right at all- generally weak and very stiff behind. When you say this was her first bit of schooling after box rest, do you mean she has done the fittening walk work etc. or is this literally the first time you have ridden her? I would say that the surface is not helping her, and she looks like she might find straight line work easier, as she appears to struggle even more around the corners at times.

Has the vet seen her work in the school? If not, I suggest you get a vet out again before she is ridden.

If you really can't tell she is unsound from that video, I suggest you get someone more experienced in to help you bring her back into work.
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She isn't my horse and that isn't me riding her. this was the first time she was ridden. The owner seemed kinda proud she went straight into the school and done this. There was no mention of building her up and walking her everyday. It was straight into the school.
 
leanne_dando said:
She isn't my horse and that isn't me riding her. this was the first time she was ridden. The owner seemed kinda proud she went straight into the school and done this. There was no mention of building her up and walking her everyday. It was straight into the school.
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As I said in my other post, that is completely unfair. As well as looking unsound, she looks generally weak (as you would expect if she has not been worked for 18 months).

How are you involved with the horse?
 
leanne_dando said:
She isn't my horse and that isn't me riding her. this was the first time she was ridden. The owner seemed kinda proud she went straight into the school and done this. There was no mention of building her up and walking her everyday. It was straight into the school.
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Owner should be ashamed of herself. I wouldn't even do this to a sound horse, let alone one that is so lame. That mare is an absolute saint - and sadly, they are the ones who seem to be abused by their "loving" owners.
 
I am involved as I was thinking of having this horse. I am thinking differently now though. I am looking for a quiet happy hack and and horses with bit of a past doesn't bother me as I am not interested in anything strenuous. but of course I wouldn't want to damage a horse anymore than it already is due to my lack of experience. When I read she has slight SI problems that didn't bother me as the trails I ride are all straight with small hills which I know is good for the horse.

I was told this horse is bomb proof and fit for hacking 2 - 3 times a week just not jumps which suited me perfectly. That is why I am trying to look into this more and this is why I posted the vid hoping people with more experience could point something out.

I did think she looked very stiff in the video but gathered that was from being put straight into the school after rest. I thought a good diet and an exercise plan from my vet I could get this horse sound enough for quiet hacks. But a lot of you are saying it is a lot worse than that....
 
It's difficult to know if she has any future, without knowing exactly what the injury was, but from that video she looks quite sore. I certainly wouldn't hack her either.

You could just be taking on a whole lot of heart ache for no good result.
 
OP do you have someone else helping you view horses? I would recommend you find someone very experienced to help you as they would have confidently said that this horse would not be suitable and advised quickly walking away! Otherwise you may well end up with a horse who you will spend a lot of money on and it never do the job you need it to. I know you said your not bothered by problems but there are plenty of horses out there who are sound, fit and ready to go do what you want to do. I personally wouldn't want to start with a horse with soundness issues - unfit is different as that's easily sorted.
IMO that horse should not be ridden, she clearly has a wonderful nature to tolerate that being done to her, quite heart wrenching to watch.
 
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leanne_dando said:
I am involved as I was thinking of having this horse. I am thinking differently now though. I am looking for a quiet happy hack and and horses with bit of a past doesn't bother me as I am not interested in anything strenuous. but of course I wouldn't want to damage a horse anymore than it already is due to my lack of experience. When I read she has slight SI problems that didn't bother me as the trails I ride are all straight with small hills which I know is good for the horse.

I was told this horse is bomb proof and fit for hacking 2 - 3 times a week just not jumps which suited me perfectly. That is why I am trying to look into this more and this is why I posted the vid hoping people with more experience could point something out.

I did think she looked very stiff in the video but gathered that was from being put straight into the school after rest. I thought a good diet and an exercise plan from my vet I could get this horse sound enough for quiet hacks. But a lot of you are saying it is a lot worse than that....
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She is very lame I wouldnt consider this horse if you are wanting something to ride, no wonder she is bomb proof I wouldnt think she would want to be galloping anywhere feeling like that, I cant believe the owners are happy to re home her looking like that, she is obviously not fixed and should be having further investigations.

Op if your seriously looking for a horse I would take someone much mor experienced than yourself with you, or you may end up with something that will cause you much heartache.
 
She is obviousely a very genuine and sweet horse - here lies the dilema, as it could be very easy to take advantage of a forgiving nature. If you are going to try and rehab her with veterinary guidance could you take her on a loan basis to start with the owner agreeing to take her back if it fails? I think the owner wanted to show you how well behaved she is but maybe didn't realise she would look so uncomfortable being ridden in the school, has she seen the video?
I just feel really sorry for the horse and I'm a soft touch but I think I would let my head rule my heart with this one. It is the owners responsibilty to pass a horse on as fit for purpose, and at the moment she definately isn't. Maybe after a 6 week very gentle walking in straight lines rehab, you might have a lot comfier moving horse, or you may have an even lamer unhappy horse. I would let the owner find that out first.
Hope things work out for the horse X
 
oh goodness - I'm sorry to sound harsh but I aw the first few strides of trot and thought "I've seen more than enough". she is hopping - I would not be riding her at all even a light hack, sorry.
 
You know, I would almost be tempted to take this horse on almost purely because it obviously has the most amazing temperament and is so willing. If I tried to ride any of my three if they were even in a smidgen of the the amount of pain that mare must be in, I'd be on the deck and stomped on!!! I think get a vet and seek their opinion. Whilst I do not disagree with the posts above, she looks to be very genuine and that goes along way. It might not be the most sensible decision but that doesn't mean it isn't the right one. Good luck and hope this poor mare gets the care and support she needs. Poor lamb.
 
Poor mare, I cannot fathom why anyone would go to the effort of extended box rest and then not try and rehab slowly and properly rather than trotting and cantering :eek3: round a school.

If you decide not to have her please tell the owner why, ie she looks dog lame.
 
I am surprised the rider didn't feel her wincing and stumbling. From that video she has such extensive problems that I think she'd be in at least low grade pain all of the time. Psychologically that's not fair on a flight animal. I agree with others she's clearly got a heart of gold but please don't use this as an excuse to become complicit in her abuse.

There are many wonderful horses suitable for your purpose who are being rehomed from loving owners in the current climate. They are just as worthy of your efforts as this mare and will save you a ton of heartbreak. You can't save them all.
 
Ouch :/

Poor mare. I wouldn't be surprised if she actually needs bute to be comfey in the field yet alone being ridden.

OP where are you and what are you looking for? HHO's always like a bit of horse shopping.
 
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