PoppyAnderson
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They just don't exist. Loads of 14hh available but nothing that's chunky, unbacked and 15hh. Ideally would be a solid colour and gelding. Help????
Can someone PLEASE tell me where to buy a young 15hh quality cob
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trickivicki
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Would a D not do the job?
PoppyAnderson
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Possibly. I've got a D x ID who's a top class cob but unfortunately hasn't made the height. He's about 14.3 and 5, so we might squeeze another inch out but I want a big chunky 15/15.2 cob that's quality and I cannot find ANY!!!
only_me
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Depends how young - a 14h cob at 3 or 4 could make 15h as 7 year old. They mature slower.
Unless you want one good enough to show, and they are like gold dust anyway! I would be looking at the 14h as they could mature to be taller. Plus, they might not actually be 143cm, they could be closer to 14.2 than 14h - a lot of people just estimate height for selling
Unless you want one good enough to show, and they are like gold dust anyway! I would be looking at the 14h as they could mature to be taller. Plus, they might not actually be 143cm, they could be closer to 14.2 than 14h - a lot of people just estimate height for selling
PoppyAnderson
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I guess I do want one good enough to show. My gelding is top quality but just hasn't made the height. They are like rocking horse poo! I'd have a 2, 3 or 4 year old but want unbacked.
Queenbee
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Just did a quick search and found this... I have not looked closely but it could prove fruitful... http://www.hermitsponiesandcobs.co.uk/Traditional FeatheredCobs Yearlings.html
it says yearlings in the link but its yearlings and above... also saw some solid colours on there
it says yearlings in the link but its yearlings and above... also saw some solid colours on there
Dancing_Diva
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Shame he belongs to my cousin and not me as he'd be for sale otherwise. I have in my care a 15hh just turned 5 year old black blagdon cob gelding, only been backed and taught the basics and turned away.
Shame he belongings to someone else lol...
Shame he belongings to someone else lol...
Ponycarrots
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Why would you want a cob? Get a nice ID or welsh D or cross of something...dunno why people obsess over cobs. Can't stand them! :-/
Dusty85
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Because this is what she wants! Her horse/money= Her rules.
Have you thought about going across to ireland? You will find lots I'm sure.
Ponycarrots
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Fair enough, but if he/she is struggling to find a suitable cob I just wondered why another breed wouldn't suffice...
Ponycarrots
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I've been to sales...about 80% are cobs. And about 70% of the cobs go for tuppence :-/
Riverrock
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Because she wants a show cob to show?
Its hard to show a tb in a show cob class...
I had a quick look at donedeal, there was a beautiful dun 4 year old cob but it was sold yesterday to england for showing! It was very nice
Ponycarrots
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She only said she wants one "good enough to show"
Some people generalize showing a bit. I didn't know she specifically wanted a "show cob"
Didn't know they were that hard to find!
FfionWinnie
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Agree. Quite taken aback by your response ponycarrots. Maybe you are joking.
My cob came from Ireland and she is the most talented horse I've owned - and I've owned several welsh Ds and IDx as well.
If you go for an Irish one watch out for the height being significantly different to the advert tho!
ihatework
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You obviously in your very young years haven't experienced what a good cob means.
I hope you'll learn.
Queenbee
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Flipping the point you are trying to make PC, if the only suitable horse you could fine that met your requirements was a cob, would you buy it? You seem to be running cobs down which would suggest you have a preferred type. It is something everyone is entitled to. I understand what you are saying, I mean look at the difference between my ebony and ben, very fine show horse vs a medium hunter weight - quite different and equally special and enjoyable to me. But op has her criteria, un backed, show quality cob, ideally solid colour, I don't see the need for running her choice down.
only_me
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Lol, all my horses are Irish 
I even have a coloured - although he is 3/4tb and 17hh - do I fit the stereotype? Personally I don't like traditional cobs/natives as I hate all that feather! Hogged and trimmed are much more to my taste. But that doesn't mean others can't like them, everybody has different tastes and goals of what they want to do.
But even in Ireland, it can be difficult to find a quality, good confo, good moving cob type horse. Then you have to add personality on top, plus the correct height and they really are rare lol. And they will not go for tuppence - a good horse is always worth good money! I will agree that done deal is a bit of a risk for reliable heights - before you go over to look at any (if they catch your eye!) I would ask for a picture of horse with a measuring stick up against it.
I even have a coloured - although he is 3/4tb and 17hh - do I fit the stereotype? Personally I don't like traditional cobs/natives as I hate all that feather! Hogged and trimmed are much more to my taste. But that doesn't mean others can't like them, everybody has different tastes and goals of what they want to do.But even in Ireland, it can be difficult to find a quality, good confo, good moving cob type horse. Then you have to add personality on top, plus the correct height and they really are rare lol. And they will not go for tuppence - a good horse is always worth good money! I will agree that done deal is a bit of a risk for reliable heights - before you go over to look at any (if they catch your eye!) I would ask for a picture of horse with a measuring stick up against it.
Tobiano
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Well I am not any kind of expert but I wonder whether in particular with cobs it can be hard to spot the potential show winners early / unbacked? If you just look at it in terms of a 'product' rather than a personality, perhaps you might buy 3 x 2 - or 3 - year olds that you liked the look of and keep the one that makes the nicest 5 YO…
My cob is IMO the most wonderful horse in the world and even under my very inexpert hands (but with expert instruction) he has blossomed from a steady reliable friend into a steady reliable friendly stunner. He is rising 8 now.
My cob is IMO the most wonderful horse in the world and even under my very inexpert hands (but with expert instruction) he has blossomed from a steady reliable friend into a steady reliable friendly stunner. He is rising 8 now.
Ponycarrots
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Well I've never met one, and I've met a lot of cobs.
Maybe they are like gold dust and I've just not been fortunate enough to meet one, but out of all the cobs I've met, even the ones I've thought are ok, I'd rather a nice arab or tb, or a native pony like a dales or welsh. But I
Prefer a horse with a willing nature, all the cobs I've met have been stubborn arses to be honest.
ihatework
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Bit like teenagers I suspect 😛
Ponycarrots
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Not joking at all.
I don't have a preferred type, but after meeting a LOT of stubborn, obstinate, dangerous, nasty cobs i would avoid buying one! And in all honesty I just don't understand the hype. Loads of people I know race about cobs, they think they're all lovely, calm obedient ponies and honestly at first glance they seem to be, but spend more than a few hours with one and you notice they are really stubborn and to me just seem dead in their minds! I can't stand dealing with them.
If I met one that did suit what I wanted, then maybe if go for it, but i just doubt I ever would, I prefer a forward going horse with something about it, a bit spooky, fizzy and fun, intelligent and willing to work, fast and sharp.
I've probably just experienced some mean cobs, like I'm sure there are in every breed. I know a lot of people who'd never buy a tb because of stereotypes, however the tbs I've known have been lovely lovely horses and made perfect sense.But I just seem to get on with hotter, sharper horses. I can't stand misbehaving horses. I don't mind spooking, bolting rearing, bucking as long as it's out of fear or an excuse but when it's just out of laziness, which is what cobs seem to do, I can't stand it.
Ponycarrots
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I guess from your comment you assume I'm a teenager...
be positive
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I think this is part of the problem for the OP most young cobs that may suit will be in the rough so may not be easy to find, not advertised as a cob or expected to go overheight by some way. It is like looking for a needle in a haystack and probably the best place to look is Ireland where they still breed ID types rather than the gypsy cob type which is becoming more commonly found everywhere but lacks the quality the OP wants.
AdorableAlice
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There is a difference between the poorly conformed vanner ponies and a quality cob. Here is two examples of cobs. A young unfurnished cob and a mature cob, one is a lightweight cob and the other a heavy. Look at the type and conformation and then compare to what you saw at a bin end sale.
Cobs are of course a type rather than a breed, apart from the 'D's. Usually they have a good dose of ID in them.
Ponycarrots
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There is a difference between the poorly conformed vanner ponies and a quality cob. Here is two examples of cobs. A young unfurnished cob and a mature cob, one is a lightweight cob and the other a heavy. Look at the type and conformation and then compare to what you saw at a bin end sale.
Cobs are of course a type rather than a breed, apart from the 'D's. Usually they have a good dose of ID in them.
Yes! Those are decent cobs; not like these gypsy cobs people seem to obsess over everywhere nowadays. I wouldn't think of those as cobs though, they look like ID crosses or heavy horse crossed. Proper horses, not stuffy old cobs.
Queenbee
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I never said you were joking. I've been fortunate enough to meet some very willing and talented cobs... I hate feather, I'm not a Cobby person per say but if I could have another like our old mare, my Christ I would in a flash! Such a talent, I remember her being vetted when she was for sale and the vet said "there are cobs and there are cobs, and that's a COB!!" But I have also seen some stubborn piggy cobs, as much as I have seen stubborn piggy tb, arab and dales.... I agree it's about the horse more than anything, but I also see that the op has a specific type in mind, who are you to judge. Just because you have not come across some exceptional cobs doesn't mean they don't exist and believe me, when you do find one that shines - they shine exceptionally bright!
be positive
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I have met and owned many cobs, yes one or two have been difficult as have some of the many other breeds I have dealt with over the years, the one I currently own is willing, forward thinking, certainly not stubborn and is the nicest natured chap you could ever meet, Toby was bought through this forum on a whim one evening and is soon to be looking for a new home hopefully with someone who will appreciate all he has to offer, he is a proper quality cob of the type the OP wants he came over from Ireland as a 14.2 weak 5 year old pony but grew into a 15.1 cob proving too big for his previous owner.
Ponycarrots
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That's fine, if you read what I said rather than getting defensive about the fact that I personally don't understand why anyone would specifically want a cob over any other breed, you'd see that I actually asked WHY OP wanted a cob (which, considering she said cob, not welsh D, dales, ID X etc, I assume she means a gypsy cob)
No one has actually given me proper reasons why anyone likes cobs that much. Yes I understand there are bad uns in all breeds and it's more about how the individual horse is raised, trained and it's mindset. All I mean is out of all breeds I've met, cobs have been the hardest to deal with. But that's just me! Everyone is suited to a certain horse and if I don't get on with cobs that's fine, I know a lot of people who are the same. Like I said I also know a lot of people who hate tbs. Everyone who meets my horse says "ooh an arab; they're all fiery/mad" stereotypes exist, and a lot of them are said by people who have met one horse from this breed.
I've met countless cobs. I've owned two! And honestly I just don't "get" them! It's like dealing with a brick wall.
If you can give me a reason what is so great abou them, that's fine, but thus far no one seems to. They just act like a good cob is this enigmatic beast that is seldom seen but when it is seen, it's magical!!!
Ponycarrots
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Nope; 100% serious.
If I said I hate TBs no one would have a problem. But god forbid someone disses cobs!!!
AdorableAlice
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They are both cobs, the lightweight has more quality than the heavy, neither would be out of place in cob classes.
Here is an example of a vanner, this is not a cob. It is a heavy horse x. You will see this type at bin end sales, probably not as tall but very similar in type. If you compare this to the pictures of the cobs, there is a big difference in type.
Sourcing quality cobs is difficult, breeding them is almost impossible, although I am hoping I have managed it.
