Can someone take a look at these rings please? (hoof)

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Can you take a look at these rings on my cobs feet?
Am thinking they are growth rings - there evn in size and not wonky/weird looking but i want a second opinion.
Cobs history - 4 yr old, turned away since June, restricted grazing in summer - kept an eye on weight as a very good doer. Weight wise looks okay - put on some longer grass during the last few weeks - talking longer grass which has been left all summer. Now restricted grazing still and gets a strip every few days (whats left of it anyway) most of field is turning very wet and whats left of the grass i doubt theres anything in it.
looking okay weight wise coming into winter.
Planning to start her on Hay end of next week when grass has gone.
These are on all 4 feet. Shes bare foot.
Thanks

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My yearling had that vet said it can be a change in diet and farrier said they were growing out there foal hooves hope that helps
 
Will point out that hooves are cool, no heat etc......she's had the odd one but never so many but saying that she was on good grass during summer. She isn't fed any hard feed, just grass.
 
Rings to me are - on the day the hoof was produced at the 'hoof making factory' in the coronet, there was an inflammatory issue and the connection was made imperfect and weak.

It can be due to a particularly high sugar day, stress, worming, toxins, mineral imbalance.......

Whatever the cause - it created an imperfect version of the wall that day.

Your horse has plenty of them :D.

As you mention she is a good doer, I would be concerned about her insulin control and would want to make sure she has adequate zinc and copper in her diet.

Then she will need strict calorie control, plenty of exercise (when old enough, look into doing long distance rides in summer and hunting all winter :D) and watch out for frosty weather. A poor doer is easier to look after :D.

http://www.safergrass.org/articles.html

Perhaps download the Lami App for your smartphone?
 
Oberon said:
Rings to me are - on the day the hoof was produced at the 'hoof making factory' in the coronet, there was an inflammatory issue and the connection was made imperfect and weak.

It can be due to a particularly high sugar day, stress, worming, toxins, mineral imbalance.......

Whatever the cause - it created an imperfect version of the wall that day.
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That is one of the best descriptions I have ever read.

Thanks:D
 
Oberon said:
Rings to me are - on the day the hoof was produced at the 'hoof making factory' in the coronet, there was an inflammatory issue and the connection was made imperfect and weak.

It can be due to a particularly high sugar day, stress, worming, toxins, mineral imbalance.......

Whatever the cause - it created an imperfect version of the wall that day.

Your horse has plenty of them :D.

As you mention she is a good doer, I would be concerned about her insulin control and would want to make sure she has adequate zinc and copper in her diet.

Then she will need strict calorie control, plenty of exercise (when old enough, look into doing long distance rides in summer and hunting all winter :D) and watch out for frosty weather. A poor doer is easier to look after :D.

http://www.safergrass.org/articles.html

Perhaps download the Lami App for your smartphone?
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Thank you, most helpful :)

Shes due a trim in the next couple of weeks so will get the farrier to double check too. I thought they maybe fodder rings but just wanted to make sure they where nothing sinister. :)
 
tallyho! said:
Sorry but the last bit made me laugh.... Foal hooves growing out... Indeed :rolleyes:
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I have seen foals growing out their hooves, though it normal happens in the first few months. New born foals have fairly soft hooves, then a stronger more 'grown' up hoof comes through. Can't find any pictures of it on the internet and the foal at work has 'proper' hooves now. Basically I think its because if the foal had proper hard feet inside the womb it would be incredibly uncomfortable!
 
What about when the rings are not a change in surface/ridges but in colour, i.e. a white foot with pinkish rings at a certain point, is this for the same reason?
 
dominobrown said:
I have seen foals growing out their hooves, though it normal happens in the first few months. New born foals have fairly soft hooves, then a stronger more 'grown' up hoof comes through. Can't find any pictures of it on the internet and the foal at work has 'proper' hooves now. Basically I think its because if the foal had proper hard feet inside the womb it would be incredibly uncomfortable!
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Yes thank you, i am familiar with foal hooves :D

The pair of lovely hooves here, belong to a 4 year old!
 
I don't mind corrected by the bf Taliban, however the pink parts are caused by bruising?

Tallyho- Sorry, didn't know old the OP's horse is (didn't read post very well!)! However I did say they grow out in literally a month of two, because they a pretty useless, until the new stronger hoof comes.
 
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dominobrown said:
I don't mind corrected by the bf Taliban, however the pink parts are caused by bruising?

Tallyho- Sorry, didn't know old the OP's horse is (didn't read post very well!)! However I did say they grow out in literally a month of two, because they a pretty useless, until the new stronger hoof comes.
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Which is why the farriers comments made me howl with laughter... :)
 
Liane said:
What about when the rings are not a change in surface/ridges but in colour, i.e. a white foot with pinkish rings at a certain point, is this for the same reason?
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dominobrown said:
I don't mind corrected by the bf Taliban, however the pink parts are caused by bruising?
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Yep, you're right.

External pinking in the wall means there was capillary damage in the laminae and sometimes papillae.

Farrier, Robbie Richardson, explained it in ways I could understand.....:D

"Same thing that happens when you hit your nail = ruptured blood vessels showing through the nail as dead, dark blue, damaged cells that either get reabsorbed (internal) of grow out over new tissue (external). The other type that I come across are caused by excessive leverage."
 
You get rings from change of pasture. Whether its the same field or not, the different types of grasses growing are shown up in small lines, no problem with them and its not to worry at all, it's natural :)
 
ok, thank you, I thought that about the 'pink' circles but it seemed a bit odd in the same place on all four feet. Would galloping around more than normal cause it? (he is a youngster so not ridden).
 
I am not completely sure about pink rings, but I know the rings In general are just change in pasture, when my horsey had a punctured sole and I had the vet out I asked then. Pink lines may be indication of a bruise, best thing is to ask farrier. I don't think its anything serious, my horse has black feet so I've not seen it. I honestly would not be too worried, best of luck x
 
I disagree that there's no need to worry.

The hoof is telling us there is a dietary or metabolic problem with the hoof.

That's really not something to ignore.

To illustrate - here is a chronic lami hoof.....notice the ripples.....

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and what eventually happens to the bone inside.......(not the same hoof)

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http://www.thenaturalhoof.co.uk/34.html
 
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