Can we organise a boycott of the RSPCA?

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Again a substantial lack of action means animals are tonight still suffering in this bobby blokes circus - when on earth will the RSPCA start to do what it is meant to - or are the milking the publicity on this one again as they can rush in like the cavelry (sp) later this week when enough press time has come from it?

Those poor poor animals and if the video footage isnt good enough for the RSPCA to take these animals into care - well someone please tell me what is.

If you usually donate to them - please cancel your subscription and send it to animal welfare charities that do actually care and will make a differance - and spend 32p or an e-mail telling them that enough is enough us the supporting public want some bang for our buck and wasting our money doing nothing but letting animals suffer but awarding themselves huge salaries and luxurios (sp) offices isnt what our donations are meant for !
 
I agree. I stopped any donations to them years ago. I'm quite happy to email them and tell them what I think.
They don't deserve their charity status
 
They came to my door yrs ago begging for donations and for me to set up a direct debit,it was a few wks after the Amersham fiasco(obviously trying to milk it,as they were portrayed as being the rescuers on the news),I allowed him to spout his bullshite,then I believe he wished he had never knocked at my door when I proceeded to tell him what a complete shower of shite the RSPCA are and why!Something needs to be done about them most definately!!!!
 
i would do it if just to help poor annie the abused elephant - where are the rspca reactions to that horrific video?


Why dont we all go on rspcas webiste and ask what they are doing to help annie?

shame them into quick action - that animal deserves it x
 
I would never give to the RSPCA. I had a letter printed in H&H asking what two elderly ponies had done wrong so as to be given to the RSPCA and the bleating, whiney letter that was issued by them the followig week was a treasure.
As far as domestic pets are concerned I support PDSA, Blue Cross and Cats Protection whilst I support a selection of horse charities when I can afford it but never, ever the RSPCA.
 
Whilst the RSPCA aren't my favourite animal charity they do do some good work in extreme cases of abuse and help rehome many thousands of unwanted domestic animals. They are also widely recognised and, by the general public, quite well-respected. perhaps we should be campaigning for them to update their practices in line with more forward-thinking views on animal care? As general standards of animal welfare do (slowly) improve the standards animal charities should be pushing for need to too.
 
Tickles said:
Whilst the RSPCA aren't my favourite animal charity they do do some good work in extreme cases of abuse and help rehome many thousands of unwanted domestic animals. They are also widely recognised and, by the general public, quite well-respected. perhaps we should be campaigning for them to update their practices in line with more forward-thinking views on animal care? As general standards of animal welfare do (slowly) improve the standards animal charities should be pushing for need to too.
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^^ this

And what firm evidence is there that the RSPCA deserve boycotting? I'm asking honestly because I want to know. Quite often there are posts on here slating them because they came out to look at a healthy horse due to a tip-off from a misinformed member of the public and the owner of the pony took offence at them following the complaint up.

Or that they didn't act when a pony was reported to them claiming that the pony wasn't neglected enough, usually because it wasn't because other people had been caring for it.
 
I agree with the above, the RSPCA are no better or worse than many of the charities that have grown very large, all waste money and that includes the likes of the BlueCross.


On the orignal point if you want to talk about other hideous and widespread wild animal abuse in circuses then a trip to France is an eye opener, they still to this day have lions and tigers in circuses, keep them in tiny boxes and parade them around the streets, it's sickening!
 
Originally Posted by Gingerwitch View Post
The problem comes that they are the only charity that can make prosecutions - maybe we need to campaign the government then to amend this?

amymay said:
No they're not.
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No indeed they are not, they are the only charity with enough funds to afford to bring prosecutions to court. If people withdraw funds on mass, there will be even fewer prosecutions.
 
yeah stop funding to something good because you do not think it is doing enough good duh.... if you do not like how something operates get involved and make yourself heard, at the same time you will help some animals.
 
sorry, but as an ex-inspector, you simply have no idea. No idea at all.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion of course, but you don't know what work the Inspectorate do, and how bloody hard it is.
 
As far as I'm aware the RSPCA can only uphold the law, you would be far better off to lobby the government to tighten up the laws on animal abuse.
Years ago I reported someone for neglect and the officer told me he agreed totally with me but as the horse had access to water (green slimey and never changed just topped up) and was given food that there was nothing he could do as he couldn't bring a prosecution as it would be thrown out. All he could do was warn the guy and talk to him, fell on deaf ears obviously.
I don't blame the RSPCA officer for this I blame the lax laws that didn't give him any power.:(
 
I had experience of them once, not a friend of a friend but me, personally.

I called anonomously regarding a skin/bone elderly horse at the livery yard whose owner didn't appear for weeks on end, only fed him when she could steal food from other people. Winter was coming on, he looked dreadful. They turned up, YO was furious (which is why I witheld my name & number despite them trying very hard to get it out of me promising it would be TOTALLY confidential - bo11ocks it was). Officer SHOWED him the contact details (were printed on the sheet he was carrying) - was listed as coming from a business next door - I lied.

Agreed pony poor, arranged another visit for owner to be there & vet. All turned up, vet pronounced pony (who only ever was given canvas rug to wear & lived out 24/7) fit to go through another winter, finished. Week later pony dead, owner hadn't been seen again, I rang her to tell her to get her butte over to the yard as I found him & he was dying. Said I'd also called vet to PTS (got abuse for that, what did I know). Poor mite was in the most awful way, in agony, had been struggling on the ground all night, tangled in rug. Owner breezes across field swinging headcollar 'he's just having a rest, he'll get up for me'. In the intervening time we'd got the rug off him & covered him in our warm, dry ones to make him a little more comfy, had no energy or will to struggle by this point. Vet arrived told her PTS now, no option. She should have been prosecuted.

You report it, they give out confidential info, then dismiss it despite pony in very poor state (near to death in fact - only 1 week away) & believe the owner! As if she was ever going to tell them the truth! Wish I could have videoed what went on & sent it to them as an example of their incomeptance. Would never call them again.

Also wont give to WWf as woman at our yard paid obscene amount by them to be a fundraiser & given company cars that very definately weren't green (first one huge bmw, second one top of the range engine bells & whistle vw golf!). Thought they were meant to spend the money given on projects to save wildlife.....
 
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I do support the RSPCA as I support other animal charities too. I do think they get bad press, sometimes yes hands are tied. They can only help within guidelines, no fault to the charities , its the LAW that needs changing .

Its only the animals that will suffer if its boycotted, whats the point in that. I have had 1st hand expereince in a RSPCA case and found them to be most helpful, they saved the horse and foals life.

I would never agree to boycott any animal charity that can save lives.
 
pip6 said:
I had experience of them once, not a friend of a friend but me, personally.

I called anonomously regarding a skin/bone elderly horse at the livery yard whose owner didn't appear for weeks on end, only fed him when she could steal food from other people. Winter was coming on, he looked dreadful. They turned up, YO was furious (which is why I witheld my name & number despite them trying very hard to get it out of me promising it would be TOTALLY confidential - bo11ocks it was). Officer SHOWED him the contact details by not hiding them (were printed on the sheet he was carrying) - was listed as coming from a business next door - I lied.

Agreed pony poor, arranged another visit for owner to be there & vet. All turned up, vet pronounced pony (who only ever was given canvas rug to wear & lived out 24/7) fit to go through another winter, finished. Week later pony dead, owner hadn't been seen again, I rang her to tell her to get her butte over to the yard as I found him & he was dying. Said I'd also called vet to PTS (got abuse for that, what did I know). Poor mite was in the most awful way, in agony, had been struggling on the ground all night, tangled in rug. Owner breezes across field swinging headcollar 'he's just having a rest, he'll get up for me'. In the intervening time we'd got the rug off him & covered him in our warm, dry ones to make him a little more comfy, had no energy or will to struggle by this point. Vet arrived told her PTS now, no option. She should have been prosecuted.

You report it, they give out confidential info, then dismiss it despite pony in very poor state (near to death in fact - only 1 week away) & believe the owner! As if she was ever going to tell them the truth! Wish I could have videoed what went on & sent it to them as an example of their incomeptance. Would never call them again.

Also wont give to WWf as woman at our yard paid obscene amount by them to be a fundraiser & given company cars that very definately weren't green (first one huge bmw, second one top of the range engine bells & whistle vw golf!). Thought they were meant to spend the money given on projects to save wildlife.....
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OK, not good experience and the officer was lax in allowing the contact details to be seen BUT the VET pronounced the pony fit to go through the winter. What more exactly should the RSPCA have done???
 
So much vitriol!

How many have had experience of working with the RSPCA?

Have acted as a half-way-house for rescued ponies and used my transport to remove some, this has given me the chance to interact with inspectors and to see first hand just how hard their job is given the bloody archaic laws we have in this country (especially as a nation of animal lovers.......not that you'd notice it from the state of some ponies we've seen!).

The inspectors deserve our support for the great work they do with one, sometimes both, hands tied by the law, however, I do think that a review of process is long overdue! The RSPCA is a charity but it shouldn't be amateurish in how it is run and some of the management and practices I've witnessed are just that.

Should we stop giving, no, should we as donators demand more efficiency in how the money is spent, yes, should we campaign to get changes in the law to protect animals and in particular domestic pets, horses and ponies better oh yes!

Licenses to own or breed dogs or equines would be a good start!
 
I think it seems hard for the RSPCA as they can't just swan in and remove animals etc. Correct me if i'm wrong but don't they have to visit, issue a warning etc then revisit. And in the extreme cases they still need a vet and police etc there.
 
glitterbug said:
As far as I'm aware the RSPCA can only uphold the law, you would be far better off to lobby the government to tighten up the laws on animal abuse.
Years ago I reported someone for neglect and the officer told me he agreed totally with me but as the horse had access to water (green slimey and never changed just topped up) and was given food that there was nothing he could do as he couldn't bring a prosecution as it would be thrown out. All he could do was warn the guy and talk to him, fell on deaf ears obviously.
I don't blame the RSPCA officer for this I blame the lax laws that didn't give him any power.:(
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I agree with this tbh - we often see the RSPCA as ineffective, but I think the law is really the problem. I still don't think that it's fully on the side of the animal, and that needs to change. Until it does, I really don't think the RSPCA can be the charity we want it to be.
Just thank god that we're more advanced than countries like Spain!
 
Splish & Masons mum said:
Originally Posted by Gingerwitch View Post
The problem comes that they are the only charity that can make prosecutions - maybe we need to campaign the government then to amend this?

Or maybe we should try make the government aware that the law is too favourable towards the ppl who cause abuse, it all comes down to human rights these days makes prosecuting almost impossibe!. The law rarely favours animal rights in comparison



No indeed they are not, they are the only charity with enough funds to afford to bring prosecutions to court. If people withdraw funds on mass, there will be even fewer prosecutions.
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May I ask where you get your info from because you are totally wrong. Apart from the police the RSPCA/SSPCA are the only organisations who can prosecute.


shysmum said:
sorry, but as an ex-inspector, you simply have no idea. No idea at all.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion of course, but you don't know what work the Inspectorate do, and how bloody hard it is.
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Agree! the SSPCA/RSPCA are not funded by the government in any way, they work purely from donations and I think they do a very good job considering the law makes it so hard to bring justice to the animals who deserve it.
 
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