Can world horse welfare enter nextdoor rented field to get to other field

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Can whw access a council rented field with other horses but need to go through first field that leads to another one they need to get to without permission from owners of horses of first field
 
Not sure, but I think they do have some authority to access animals in trouble. I certainly hope so, nice to see them out checking on the welfare of horses.
 
They do actually do there work , someone phoned and said all my horses in particular my 3 yr being underweight , all of which are up to weight and in great condition ,
So I recieved a little slip to say thay called ,I phoned back and offered her to come out to have a look for herself , in her words all horses are in great condition and wouldn't like any more on them they where a perfect weight , so not only has this wasted my time,and distress but also waste time and money for them
both of us are very annoyed as you can imagine ,
I'm trying to find out who has done it . I've got a feeling it's nextdoor as I did get her hay this year and has been very off with me which is why for question if she has given permission for them to access her field then it's her
 
Nobody can enter without permission of the landowner, otherwise its trespassing, end of. A few exceptions - police etc, but even in this instance RSPCA/WHW/BHS cannot just wander onto private land, unless there is public footpath to follow (and stay on)

However, various horse charity workers may try to gain access where possible for a welfare issue, but if told by landowner to vacate, must do so immediately and without confrontation.

Ways can be got round, eg: ask adjacent land owner to enter their premises to get as close to next property etc to see over fences.
 
I have had the sspca called on me twice it is worrying and stressful. One was for my old dog who was dying and someone saw her in the garden and decided she was starved. i got the slip from the sspca the same day i had to get her put down. The second was because the horses were standing in a muddy filed with no evidence of hay!!!! I have native hoovers you can't feed them ad lib as they would eat and eat and eat and pop!!!! they get piles morning and night to hoover. Both times the inspectors were polite and a bit surprised but would you rather people walked past and never said anything. If you thought a horse or animal was being neglected would you walk by and not report it???
If your horses are fine it is no problem, just a bit stressful at the time.
 
I understand that its upsetting for you to think that someone thought your horses were in poor condition but from an objective point of view, it didn't waste their time. WHW were happy that your horses were cared for and you have the reassurance that they have been seen.
Sometimes people forget what an up to weight horse looks like, so many horses are obese, it makes the normal ones look thin. Hopefully, the person who reported your horses was motivated by good intentions rather than malice.
 
I wouldn't walk past no if I see a horse underweight ,no feed etc ,
But mine always have hay , they have a self filling water trough and all are rugged , it's annoyed me that someone has done this on purpose within the 10 yrs I've had horses here i have never had a problem . It hasn't bothered me showing because I have nothing to hide and insisted she came back to look and have a look at other 2 while here too , but it's the case they have wasted time of whw when there are horses that are in desperate need
 
I hope they do get access.

Far better they visit and confirm everything is ok than not visit or get access and aren't able to help an animal in distress.
 
Probably not. But who cares? If there is a complaint made I'd want them to investigate.

If it's your horses, OP, I'm sure you have nothing to hide - so obviously you wouldn't be concerned........
 
I wasn't concerned amymay , and all things have been declared fit and healthy ,
It has just annoyed me someone has I know for a fact done this on purpose ,
Just wanted to know if they need permission from other owner to access her field to get to my gate ,. Thanks anyway someone has answered my question
 
Out of interest has anyone had a visit following a report of obesity? I don't think even police are allowed to enter without a warrant or owner permission unless in an emergency.Or is that just buildings?
 
Whether they can or they can't it's never bothered them driving onto my property looking for other people's animals, they just turn up and walk round with no by your leave and are usually not all that apologetic when I point out that no, I don't have a fat laminitic coloured cob, it lives over the road, no I don't have several hundred chickens, they live three doors down and no I don't have horses that are frequently loose on the road, they are also over the road, four doors up from the fat cob unless of course they have escaped again.
 
It doesn't matter anyway , all good but just wanted to find out who it was to ask why even to offer to come and have a look if it was for a good intention call . Shame there not aloud to tell ya
 
No one has the right to enter private property without the permission of either the owner or the tennant, unless there is immediate danger of a crime, in which case the police can and do enter. In other circumstances the police, or other STATUTORY agencies (Social Services, environmental health etc) can apply for a warrant to enter, the warrant is always executed with a police presence and any other agency MUST be named on the warrant for them to have the right to enter. So for example, if the police get a warrant to enter and the welfare agency named on the warrant is not the one represented then the welfare agency would not be able to enter without the permission of the landowner.
 
The rspca have the right. It was given to them in 2007 to enter a property if they have reason to believe there is a welfare issue. I don't recall any other organisation having the right.
We've had several bad dealings with then. A couple when weve reported and nothing has been done. And one to a horse under vet care, they were escorted off the premises when they pushed the issue.
 
PandorasJar said:
The rspca have the right. It was given to them in 2007 to enter a property if they have reason to believe there is a welfare issue. I don't recall any other organisation having the right.
We've had several bad dealings with then. A couple when weve reported and nothing has been done. And one to a horse under vet care, they were escorted off the premises when they pushed the issue.
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Regret not - only with a police escort which will have a warrant = Current regs.

The RSPCA have the same rights of entry as WHW, BHS etc - nowt. The only additional extra's the RSPCA have to the other 2 that I mention, is a uniform - and often the facility to take an animal to immediately.

OP - dont worry, its an occupational hazard in the winter. I've been reported in the past - lady walking dogs past my fields saw fuzzies standing around mid afternoon every day, poor little blighters - in the rain/snow etc.
What she didn't see was hay going out morning times & then them coming in overnight for more hay/feed etc. Some people just don't 'get' animals being out in fields in winter..... ;) and we all know that fuzzies will congregate near gates when its getting to 'tea-time' ;)
Trouble at that time was that I had 2 RSPCA ponies in with my gang for behaviour work prior to re-homing - loved the look on the inspectors face when he had to do the mandatory visit :D
 
ThiS is the problem that the inspector said is to many people think horses should be fat etc and many believe or not are horse owners she said this is not the case many should be on lean side where ribs can be felt and not seen
 
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