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Ok this isnt even a rant because im actually too gobsmacked by the recent turn of events to even get annoyed!!Ive posted before regarding my YO being a bit crazy at times and that she had a go at me a few weeks ago saying that if i sent my mare to stud I would need to find a new livery yard because she wouldnt take her back. I was pretty annoyed about this because she had always been aware of my plans to send mare to stud and had never mentioned that the mare would be unwelcome in the yard. Well the last few weeks have been so hectic because im changing jobs,etc, etc and i havent really spent much time with the horses because of it. I know that sounds awful but they are put on the walker every day and my friend in the yard has been keeping an eye on them for me (they are on full livery) so it really shouldnt be a massive issue. Turns out that the YO has been giving out to anybody who would listen about me saying that im neglecting my horses, that ive obviously lost interest and that she was fed up with me because everytime she rang i never answered the phone to her!!I couldnt believe i was hearing this because i had one call from her but i was out of the country at the time so didnt take her call. I havent heard from her since and my friend says horses are fine so I didnt think there was any reason for me to ring her. The thing is her and her husband have had a massive falling out with the local hunt and have started up their own hunt this season which all of us in the yard are expected to support(we are "forbidden" by YO to hunt with the other hunt). Ive been out with this new hunt every week until recently but because ive been so busy i missed the last three weeks. She has taken this v personally even though whether i hunt or not should really be none of her business. Then a friend of mine gave me a ticket on friday to a hunt ball on sat nite which was being organised by the local hunt she has fallen out with and who she now regards as the "enemy". I wasnt one to turn down a good nite out so i went to the ball and while i was there i had 3 missed calls from YO at 11.30 at nite. I rang my friend because wasnt sure if there was somethign wrong with horses or not but she said that YO was drunk in pub and that she had heard i was going to the enemy's hunt ball and was therefore ringing me at 1130 at night to give me abuse!!I obviously wasnt going to bother calling her back to listen to abuse off her so i ignored her calls and i then received a text message off her the following morning saying she viewed my attanedance at the ball as a personal betrayl and that she wanted horses off yard by end of week!!I was so angry i told her that was fine and now have the v difficult task of trying to find new livery for horses plus am so upset because i share another horse that is on the yard and that will have to stay behind. The whole episode has upset me so much because i have done so much for this girl over the years and have always viewed her as a good friend. To think she can be so silly and petty has really hurt me.
anyway sorry for the v v v long post i just needed to get it off my chest with some fellow horsey people- my OH and the people who know her have actually said im better off out of there because she can be abit psycho at times but im really going to miss the place.
 
She doesnt sound like the most sane of YO's but I have a slight niggle that you didnt ring her to find out how your horses were, while you couldnt go see them. I know your friend was keeping an eye but still, might of been a nice idea
 
Whislt your YO sounds a sandwich short of a picnic there are always two sides to a story. If you want to stay do you think you could call a truce and have some serious discussions?
 
This is the danger of not keeping of not keeping your relationship with your YO simply businesslike, it is so much more difficult when friendships break down.

She is being manipulative, unprofessional and unfair, of course, but you have known for some time that she has been like this. When you chose an entertaining night out for you, over the short term welfare of your horses (you knew this would cause problems) you put the final nail in the coffin, and are now working to her timescales instead of your own.

I do hope you find a good alternative very soon, but have to say i think you could have been more diplomatic. Never mind, lesson learned for next time maybe.
 
Sorry i know i said i hadnt hunted in 3 weeks but it was only five days since i had been in yard i hope none of you thought i hadnt seen horses in three weeks!!She is paid a lot of money by me to keep my horses its not as if she is doing me any favours. We all have gone along with her wishes-hunting with her new hunt just to keep the peace but i think her taking offence at where i go out at weekends is taking the biscuit!!I knew she would be annoyed but i thought that as someone running a business she would realise the appropriate times to seperate her personal feelings from her business dealings- after all im a client of hers she should treat me as such. If she has an issue with me as a person she should discuss it with me in a reasonable manner we are all adults after all and not be so petty as sending a text telling me she was putting the horses out- i half expected to go up and find horses tied to the gate on the road!! I do feel in the long run im better off out of her yard because ive known for a while now that she takes alot of stuff too personally and im now the third person that she has put off the yard in the last 6 months. It actually has nothing to do with me not phoning her about the horses- she knows my friend has been looking after them because i told her he was and she has seen him lunging them, etc. The last person she put off the yard was because a girl who was always in the yard and she got sick of her hanging around too much so she put her out- i dont think there is any winning with her!!
 
I don't think any of us would suggest this woman isn't nuts..she clearly has a few problems, but you are still speaking about her as though she should have been professional...this is your mistake, as it was quite apparent she couldn't be.
 
yep your right there it was my mistake i should have known how she would react aw well i suppose im off to phone all the yards in the area and see if they have any space for my lot!!what a pain!!
 
I'm sorry, but what you do in your spare time, i.e attending hunt balls has nothing to do with your YO, you pay her to look after your horse, I go away for a week at a time and I don't make contact with my YO, it is she who will call me as and when there is a problem, otherwise she is trusted 100% in my absense, otherwise I wouldn't be on her yard!!!

I'd get the hell out of there, she simply is unbalanced and is taking her YO role a little too seriously I'm afraid and is being a complete control freak if you ask me.

You simply don't need this with work as well...
 
When you described the hunt circumstances I realised that I have a good idea where you are based. To clarify on H&H - your yard owner and her husband have not had a falling out with the local hunt - they simply decided along with a group of others to form their own 'hunt' - what I am sure you have not been told is that the Hunting Association of Ireland have warned these individuals that they are not to go out at any stage with their hounds - they have been told that there is no room for another hunt in the area - and several neighbouring packs have published notices in the Irish Field saying that any of their members who go out with the illegal 'hunt' will no longer be welcome with their own pack.
This unsuccessful attempt to start a new pack in the middle of country that is currently hunted by three packs in places has obviously upset your YO's delicate temperament - your going to the hunt ball on saturday night was, to her, simply rubbing salt in the wounds!
I have been told that the ball was a rip roaring success - she wont have liked hearing that either.
Her behaviour is petulant and ridiculous and you should get phoning around sooner rather than later.
There are plenty of suitable yards around North County Dublin run by perfectly sane individuals
Good luck with your search
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Longtimelurker what an excellent post and it does help to clarify the situation completely. The YO has been completely out of order and unprofessional in her actions and I agree that Elliefiz should start looking sooner rather than later.
I would not even attempt to resolve the issue with the YO because upon reading this not only does she seem to be pedantic and childish but I would be fearful that should the matter be sorted who is to say the YO would not react in a similar manner in the future.
No I would say Ellie get the hell out of there and into a yard run by professionals and not by childish amateurs!
Good luck x
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yes you've certainly hit the nail on the head and are exactly right in where i am located and what the situation with the hunting is!!ive actually found new yard- one where i will be able to hunt with whomever i like and go to any ball i want!!!its times like this when you can really count on your friends and within 10 mins of making phone calls ive had 3 calls back offering various solutions so im v pleased!!
there is no point trying to make amends id feel like i was constantly treading on egg shells in case i upset her again, thus sparking off the same reaction and therefore am better off out of there altogether!!after all hunting and horses are my hobbies-things i do when i need to relax, i dont want to have to worry that my actions might upset anybody!!
And your completely right the ball was amazing the best night they have ever put on!!!
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Glad to hear that you've got yourself and your horses sorted so quickly - as I said there are many good yards in that area - when horses are your hobby and passion and you work full time as you say you dont need politics and erratic behaviour to complicate things.
Good luck in the new yard and here's hoping you can relax and enjoy your horses once again soon
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Elliefiz...what a small world! I was at the huntball on Saturday nite too. Have to agree with you - it was a brillant night. By far the best hunt ball i've ever been at
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I am in agreement with the two previous posts. Glad you found a new yard.



I know very little about the new "hunt" in the area as I don’t hunt myself – I went to the ball with some friends who hunt with a few local packs. But i would like to know who came up with the ingenious plan to form a new hunt in an area where land is being devoured by housing developments at an alarming rate. I would imagine the established hunts are finding it hard enough to get a good days hunting as it is.
 
Hi irishgirl you will find that HHO is definitely a small world and you meet all sorts of people on here!!

Ive actually been out with new hunt a few times and they have covered alot of ground that has never been hunted before because there are a lot of farmers involved who never let other hunts on their lands before now. I think the new lot or the taliban as they are known will probably continue hunting despite the efforts of the other hunts to put a stop to them for the simple reason that they hunt only on a saturday and therefore people who work full time will come out with them. I know there is a lot of trouble behind the scenes with the established hunts trying to stop their members hunting with the new crowd but ive tried to avoid all the politics-i go out with whoever will have me on the particular day that im available to hunt!!
 
Thanks watcher it was so quickly done im delighted!!no worries bout crazy YO anymore- friends keep horses in new place and all said that guy who runs it is extremely nice and helpful yet maintains professional distance and only gives help/makes comments when he is approached to do so!!plus has floodlight arena, full set of fences, american barn stabling and 80 acres of grazing plus x-country course so ideal set up!!im very excited bout move now!!tho how do i go about leaving present yard?obviously have no wish to see YO but will have to as have to pay her livery plus will take a while to clear my stuff out so imagine she will be lurking around at some stage i hope she doesnt have a go at me!!
 
Elliefiz -a fun run or charity run on a saturday appears to be serving a demand as you say (for a hunt without hounds is not a hunt
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). It is generally always possible with cross country runs like I believe they are providing across a pre-determined route to get into smaller pockets of land that are essentially un-huntable with hounds and you're right they will probably continue to serve those who work full time or those who are not hunting purists and who simply want the thrill of riding cross country. From what I can gather no-one is trying to stop them from doing this - the issue revolves around them going out as a 'hunt' with hounds in an area already hunted by three packs with limited land access as noted by Irish Girl.
Your new yard sounds perfect and as I said earlier I hope you are happy there and can relax and enjoy your horses again soon. With regards to moving - chin up and Im sure that when you meet her things wont be as bad as you fear. It is always hard when there have been things said between yourself and someone you considered to be a friend. You have made the right decision for you and your horses to move (TBH it sounds like you'd be mad not to
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Best of luck
 
oh but they do hunt with hounds!they have had hounds for months now which they have been working for months and which have been out a couple of times on a saturday actually hunting!!v nice pack i must say they came from a pack in tipperary they are renting kennels at mo but apparently building is going on in land of one of their supporters for top of the range kennels and a proper hunt yard. True at the beginning there were a couple of charity runs but they are properly hunting now.
 
Elliefiz - as you've been out with them I cannot contradict you regarding the use of hounds or otherwise - I was only repeating what I had read in the Irish Field which was they have been told by the Hunting Association of Ireland that there is no room for another pack in the area.
There is nothing nicer than watching a nice mannerly pack of hounds working (affiliated or unaffiliated) and hopefully you will get a chance to do that with them despite your falling out with your YO - we should consider ourselves very lucky that hunting continues as normal in this country after the ban in Britain and petty politics should not be brought into it
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