Can you guess the name and use?

[only_me]

these are two old veterinary tools, used by my great grandad on horses.
i know what they are, but can you guess what they are called and what they were used for?

a clue- they were always used together!

have fun and if you really want to know answers pm me and i will tell you!

 

[mintaka04]

Yup, I know what it is and what it's for (but I'm so old I trained with Florence Nightingale )

Will keep quiet for now...this could be a good game...

 

[Colleen_Miss_Tom]

clemp and beetle ?

 

[piebaldsparkle]

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clemp and beetle ?

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**snigger**Someones been looking at properties for clues!!!!!

 

[Colleen_Miss_Tom]

Darn it

 

[Colleen_Miss_Tom]

I know I know there

 

[kerilli]

i'm not going to cheat. umm, something to do with hoof testing is my first thought. look a bit too solid to be used on any part of the horse's body, tbh!

 

[ajn1610]

ohhh a quiz ... hmmm I guess the mallet thing - because of the marks on it - was used to strike the back of the other thing?
They are different sizes and I think the brass bit is a guard so did they needed to be kept sharp?
I can't think of anything for purpose though, opening a drain maybe?
This is not elementary my dear Watson - not for me anyway but maybe I'm thick PM me I give up!

 

[blackcob]

Oooh, is the name of one of them a fleam?

 

[only_me]

kerrilli - nope but your right, the bat isnt used on the horse

ajn1610 - first 2 questions are right, third is way off

 

[Ellies_mum2]

Anything to do with shoeing?

*ducks back out of sight

*

 

[only_me]

nope

 

[ajn1610]

knocking out teeth? lol

 

[Ellies_mum2]

Ok I give up

 

[kerilli]

oh, oh, they're not for using on backs, are they? i had a horse's back done with someone using a rubber hammer, long time ago. (never again.)

 

[only_me]

nope not used on back

would be rather scary as the bat is solid wood though

 

[clairel]

I know! They are for using on annoying HHOers who post questions I don't know the answer to!

That is going to bug me for ages!!

 

[only_me]

nope lol

 

[trundle]

I dont know if there's a proper word for that bat , but that brass-cased thing is a fleam! Back in the days when blood-letting was a normal thing to do, for people and animals, i guess they'd have held one of those blades against the body, and given it a tap with the bat to break the skin (and then i guess jumped back and stood well clear !).

The old mental card index has thrown up an answer while i was writing this actually - if the brass thing is a fleam, then the bat is more properly called a bloodstick. I've read about them, and seen pictures in very old books (mentioned in Black Beauty, maybe?). I think those are rather cool things to own - a real piece of veterinary history.

When was your great-grandfather born, only_Me?

 

[skewbaldpony]

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Back in the days when blood-letting was a normal thing to do,

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You have clearly not been paying close enough attention to HHO Forums .....

 

[only_me]

yep your right - it is for blood letting

my granddad called the bat a "beetle" and he was telling me stories of it being used when he helped his dad.

i think my great grandfather was born in the 1880's or 1890's, and he was known as the "country vet" and apparantly could cure everything that came to him

the fleam is tapered at the end so when it was used you only needed one stitch to sew it up

i think its pretty amazing too

 

[merlinsquest]

I have seen this used on an old Jack Hargreaves country program.......

It made me feel quite sick!!!