Can you layer up with 2 rug liners under turnout?

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I'm looking at changing my rugs to having a couple of turnout rugs with liners instead.

At the moment, I'm looking at getting a 50g turnout rug with a 100g and 200g liner.

I'm deciding whether I need to get a 300g liner for when it is particularly cold but wasn't sure if you could use two liners (i.e. 100g and 200g) under the turnout instead? Or is it best to stick with one liner? I don't want it to get too restricting by layering up that much.
 
On mine (PE) it would be a tight fit, if at all, to add 2 liners to the attachments at the neck. The ones at the back OK. You will also then have 6 fastenings at the front, even 4 when you have one liner is tedious.
 
I have done so (in a pinch I have even layered two turnout rugs). I just bought a 100g Shires rug with a 100g liner, TBH the outer rug is a bit thinner than i expected, I wouldn't bother with a 50g unless your horse runs hot.

ETA: I have found you don't necessarily need to clip the underrug on at the front, if it as chest straps and attaches at the back.
 
Thanks everyone.

I haven't really used the front attachments in the past as they don't tend to slip or pull, I mainly clip on the back so I'd probably clip the bottom liner to the top liner and then the top liner to the turnout rug but just worry it might be too tight really. I'll probably just get the 300g when needed.

My horse runs cold so now I'm wondering if I am actually better off getting the 100g turnout instead with liners rather than 50g. I tend to use 50g, 100g, 200g and 300g the most.
 
I've done so but after having his buddy undo the front velcro of a liner that wasn't attached at the neck and the liner then slipping back and out from under the rug, resulting in it getting ripped off the clips, I wouldn't do it again except if I was stuck for a layer.
 
I've done it on the odd occasion we get a freakishly cold night. I just put a surcingle over the first liner and then put the turnout, with second liner attached in, over the top. Worked fine but horse is stabled overnight so it didn't have to put up with much movement above munching and snoozing!
 
nutjob said:
On mine (PE) it would be a tight fit, if at all, to add 2 liners to the attachments at the neck. The ones at the back OK. You will also then have 6 fastenings at the front, even 4 when you have one liner is tedious.
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I actually sometimes wonder if they are actually easier than having different rugs because of the amount of time it takes to attach them. I find them quite fiddly!
 
Abacus said:
(in a pinch I have even layered two turnout rugs).
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I have been wondering about this for the ancient pony that lives here. He has four turnout rugs, none are more than 100g fill I should think*. I wondered if I would need a larger rug to go over the top, should I need to double up rugs if it gets really cold. I do have a rug of the next size up which belonged to my old pony. Or does it work with two rugs the same size? I don't want him to feel pinched by his rugs.

*The rugs are also ancient and the labels which should tell me the weight of them are unreadable.
 
suestowford said:
I have been wondering about this for the ancient pony that lives here. He has four turnout rugs, none are more than 100g fill I should think*. I wondered if I would need a larger rug to go over the top, should I need to double up rugs if it gets really cold. I do have a rug of the next size up which belonged to my old pony. Or does it work with two rugs the same size? I don't want him to feel pinched by his rugs.

*The rugs are also ancient and the labels which should tell me the weight of them are unreadable.
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I can only suggest putting them on and seeing how they seem to fit. My horse seemed fine for a couple of weeks like that last winter. I did wonder if he was more likely to sweat underneath but he didn’t.

I’d think if they are all only about 100g you probably wouldn’t need a bigger one on top.
 
My mare ran super cold one year and I found 100g outer and 200g liner was the heaviest she needed so you may find 50g plus 209g liner is enough.
What make is your rug and what size do you need?
 
I find they stay warmer in the rugs with liners than the same weight in a standard rug, I think because the liner and rug must trap warm air between them like the old fashioned rug layering we used to do.

Ancient pony has the Rambo system with liners, I find it useful as he lives out so means I can easily swap rug weights without having a dripping wet rug hanging around for weeks drying out. I have the 0g rug with 100g, 200g & 400g liners and this seems to be fine to see us through winter. I swap between this and a Rhino 200g combo rug for when it’s very wet and windy to keep the chill off his neck.
 
spotty_pony2 said:
I actually sometimes wonder if they are actually easier than having different rugs because of the amount of time it takes to attach them. I find them quite fiddly!
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I agree, I like a 200gr rug for wet & cold weather, less likely to leak than a 50 or 100 and you can still add under rugs if needed (I don't use liners, just stable rugs under turnouts when necessary).
 
marmalade76 said:
I agree, I like a 200gr rug for wet & cold weather, less likely to leak than a 50 or 100 and you can still add under rugs if needed (I don't use liners, just stable rugs under turnouts when necessary).
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I’m finding the thin rugs with the liners is still letting the wet in onto the liner in heavy rain so like you, I think when my 200g gets old I’ll be replacing it rather than getting the liner for my swish rug which is what I was intending to do…
 
marmalade76 said:
I agree, I like a 200gr rug for wet & cold weather, less likely to leak than a 50 or 100 and you can still add under rugs if needed (I don't use liners, just stable rugs under turnouts when necessary).
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I can't speak for other brands but my Rambo Duo 100g has been on my horse all winter from Aug-Apr for the past 4 years and it hasn't leaked at all. I've used it with and without liners depending on what's needed and my pony is dry underneath.
Pony lives out 24/7 with a shelter.
 
fidleyspromise said:
I can't speak for other brands but my Rambo Duo 100g has been on my horse all winter from Aug-Apr for the past 4 years and it hasn't leaked at all. I've used it with and without liners depending on what's needed and my pony is dry underneath.
Pony lives out 24/7 with a shelter.
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It was the lining that gave way on the duo I had, totally put me off paying through the nose for Rambos. I tend to go for Amigo 1200D now, a couple I got in the sale because they were old stock, the 200gr was only £55.
 
fidleyspromise said:
I can't speak for other brands but my Rambo Duo 100g has been on my horse all winter from Aug-Apr for the past 4 years and it hasn't leaked at all. I've used it with and without liners depending on what's needed and my pony is dry underneath.
Pony lives out 24/7 with a shelter.
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Same here.

We gathered up 2nd hand 100g Duo's from Ebay etc, with a random selection of liners, and never have any leaks on 3 horses who are out all day every day. I don't beilieve in 'duvet days' for horses!

My 50g brand new Swish rug lasted about 2 months before it started leaking.

OP - yes, I have layered 2 liners at once. As long as the rear clips are attached to the outer, you don't need the shoulder tabs.
 
Abacus said:
I have done so (in a pinch I have even layered two turnout rugs). I just bought a 100g Shires rug with a 100g liner, TBH the outer rug is a bit thinner than i expected, I wouldn't bother with a 50g unless your horse runs hot.

ETA: I have found you don't necessarily need to clip the underrug on at the front, if it as chest straps and attaches at the back.
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I do that way more often than use liners. I’ll
Pop a 50/100g over top of a daytime turnout at night.
 
I use multiple liners all the time. I never do the shoulder attachments but clip on at the back. Never found a problem with them pulling back or coming undone.

I purposefully use two liners so that in the morning I can just pull a liner off and then in the evening when they need more they have the other liner back on.

From my own clothes I can’t see that wearing two turnouts would be as effective or comfortable. I think it would be the equivalent of wearing two waterproof jackets instead of a jumper and a jacket? So you’ve got the bottom turnout that’s designed not to let heat escape rather than layers that trap the warmth with a top layer to keep the warmth in.

On the tangent my Horseware rugs are amazing and have kept my horses dry in some serious storms and rain. I’ve found that if I thought they were leaking it was actually that the horses were too hot and if I reduced what they had on the rug was good.
 
The other main advantage I find with using liners that nobody has mentioned is you can just chuck the liners through the washing machine without having to get the whole rug washed. I hardly ever get the outer turnout washed as there’s no need and I try to avoid washing turnouts as find even when reproofed they lose their waterproofing over time.
 
I put on two turnout rugs, the under rugs a normal fit the over rug a size up. The under rug never gets dirty, and if it suddenly gets warmer you just slide it out underneath. I like them because if the bottom edge gets wet the water just runs off and it dries. My trash paddock has looked like a pit for mud wrestling so I would't use anything that I couldn't hose off or holds water.
 
Interesting about the Swish rugs not lasting long and leaking. I was looking at getting one and was torn between that and a Horseware Amigo, glad I did. I opted for the 50g Amigo in the end with a 100g and 200g liner. My other Shires 100g liner which is just under 2 years old is already looking more like a 50g so I'll keep that as a back up.
 
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