Can you take a 3 year old out competing?

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I think you will have to enquire at local unaffiliated shows. Certainly at BD shows he would not be allowed in the warm up arena. Only horses competing can do that. It is hair raising enough in there sometimes when there are youngsters around.

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Thats true at all riding clubs / affiliated shows etc ridden horses have to be 4 yr old. As you say it's hair raising enough at times I certainly wouldn't want to be on a green 3 yr old with limited brakes or steering. An accident waiting to happen.
Becky won't listen I imagine she's already made her mind up anyway.
 
Memo... if you take the time to read my later posts, you will see that yes my mind is made up. But perhaps not the way you are presuming and suggesting!
 
i have to say Jetset...i think you might be setting yourself up for an accident. you can't possibly plan on having your OH round for the first couple of times you sit on him and then expect everything to be ok?!!!
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My horse was broken in February and i am only just at the stage where he is confident enough for me to get on him without someone holding him- and he is a 4 year old that is very mature in his head- let alone a big, strapping, confident 2/3 year old!
if you want to send him away then i would recommend wayne at arkenfield. he did my boy for me and i am very impressed with his work...but its only been the beginning of a very long journey. sorry, don't want to sound like i'm getting at you (i'm really not
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(FWIW i've fallen off mine about 10 times since february- during the initial breaking process and afterwards and this has been with a holder- when babies want to bronc you off they get you off!
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Memo... if you take the time to read my later posts, you will see that yes my mind is made up. But perhaps not the way you are presuming and suggesting!

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We have read your posts . You have already jumped a cross pole and have long reined him as a yearling. You plan to sit on him as a 2 yr old and long rein him a couple of times a week and as a 3 yr old school him and take him to some shows.
You say he is 16.1 he is going to be a big horse trust me BIG HORSES NEED MORE TIME
 
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i have to say Jetset...i think you might be setting yourself up for an accident. you can't possibly plan on having your OH round for the first couple of times you sit on him and then expect everything to be ok?!!!
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My horse was broken in February and i am only just at the stage where he is confident enough for me to get on him without someone holding him- and he is a 4 year old that is very mature in his head- let alone a big, strapping, confident 2/3 year old!
if you want to send him away then i would recommend wayne at arkenfield. he did my boy for me and i am very impressed with his work...but its only been the beginning of a very long journey. sorry, don't want to sound like i'm getting at you (i'm really not
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(FWIW i've fallen off mine about 10 times since february- during the initial breaking process and afterwards and this has been with a holder- when babies want to bronc you off they get you off!
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I really don't want to send him away, although if I did I know the very person he would go to but it is a veeeerrrryyyy long way away and would mean I had zero input. I am hoping my situation may have altered somewhat by the time it comes to sitting on him, but if it stays as it is, I would have to rely on my husband who is away most of the time
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As I say, I am in no rush with him, so it may just mean that circumstances dictate that he is not sat on until the end of his third year when he comes back in from the field. It all very much depends on what he is like with everything. He never batted an eyelid when I put a roller on him, nor the saddle (because the roller was just too big
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I guess we'll just have to see how things go...
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But, you are right, some require people on the ground for a lot longer, whereas I have also known some which have been backed with just the owner and never once having someone on the ground. I am sure, knowing my luck, Troy will be the former
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FWIW mine was 100% not a problem for saddle and roller on, lungeing in side reins and me leaning over him. he was also fine with me sitting on him in walk with a leader. it was when we tried to progress from there that he kept panicking so please don't assume that Troy will be ok. i was adamant that Vandi wasn't being sent away- i've helped loads of people break horses in (some easier than others) and really wanted to do mine myself...but i had to realise after a week that he needed someone with far more stickability than me (and i have great stickability!) mine only went away for 2 weeks tho- to get over the little problem he was having and then he came back so i've had most of the input into his training- and yes it is rewarding...
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i would definitely make sure you have someone around in the initial couple of months- even if they aren't holding him you need someone there to ring the ambulance if necessary
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i now get on mine on my own 90% of the time but if i haven't ridden for a few days/ am in a strange place then i get someone to hold him or revert back to a leg up... are you on livery? surely someone can help you?
 
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Memo... if you take the time to read my later posts, you will see that yes my mind is made up. But perhaps not the way you are presuming and suggesting!

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We have read your posts . You have already jumped a cross pole and have long reined him as a yearling. You plan to sit on him as a 2 yr old and long rein him a couple of times a week and as a 3 yr old school him and take him to some shows.
You say he is 16.1 he is going to be a big horse trust me BIG HORSES NEED MORE TIME

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I completely understand that he needs time and my penultimate post stated that I will follow people's advice from here and will not even think of taking him out until his fourth year which will be 2011. I have never done this before, so was simply asking advice and have taken what more experienced people have kindly offered to me.

I long lined him only a handful of times as a yearling with the help of Richard Maxwell because of a difficult circumstance that I was finding myself in (I was on a yard with no turnout and he was threatening to come through the arena fence when left loose in the arena... needless to say as soon as I found somewhere suitable we moved). We did nothing more than walk on the lines in straight lines around the arena, but it prevented him breaking through the fence and hurting himself.

He was then long lined three times in March or April this year before he was turned away because he was getting a bit bolshy and bored and it seemed to just keep his mind occupied in the last week before turnout. Again, this was just in walk and in straight lines around the arena.

I was only planning on sitting on him at the end of this year if he was ready (how is that different from someone sitting on their three year old in their third spring when they were a July foal?) and that was literally to sit astride him, walk a circle, if that and then that would be it. However, having read other people's comments, I will just wait and see how he is progressing by that stage before making any plans.

I am not planning on schooling him until he comes back from turnout as a three year old, so when he is three years and nine months and even then it will be light schooling to ensure we have breaks and steering to enable us to hack out safely. Yes, I was thinking of taking him to some little unaffil shows to warm up with others, but due to the advice in this post, I have concluded it will be best to leave this until his fourth year and will then do things through the riding clubs as Bossanova suggested. Before this, I did not know they ran things like group lessons, which would be perfect for what I was hoping to achieve from taking him out.

As I said in one of my previous posts, I would be thrilled if I could take him to the four year old classes, that would just be a dream come true. But I am also not silly enough to think no matter what we will be going. He could look like an emu by then depending on where he is up to in his growth so that will all depend on him. If we don't go, we can always aim for the five year old classes the following year.

I hold my hands up, he did jump a cross pole... The yard owner had been loose jumping her stallions and I had dropped them all to teeny tiny cross poles and loose jumped my two girls. I then turned Troy out and just played with him a bit (he runs with me and stops and turns as I do) and not really thinking I jumped over the cross pole and he followed me (I actually couldn't believe he had done it). He then spent the next ten minutes jumping it with me frantically trying to catch him worrying about his legs because he was jumping them with miles to spare! In the end I just dropped the jumps and left him loose in the school jumping the poles and finally when he became bored he let me catch him.
 
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FWIW mine was 100% not a problem for saddle and roller on, lungeing in side reins and me leaning over him. he was also fine with me sitting on him in walk with a leader. it was when we tried to progress from there that he kept panicking so please don't assume that Troy will be ok. i was adamant that Vandi wasn't being sent away- i've helped loads of people break horses in (some easier than others) and really wanted to do mine myself...but i had to realise after a week that he needed someone with far more stickability than me (and i have great stickability!) mine only went away for 2 weeks tho- to get over the little problem he was having and then he came back so i've had most of the input into his training- and yes it is rewarding...
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i would definitely make sure you have someone around in the initial couple of months- even if they aren't holding him you need someone there to ring the ambulance if necessary
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i now get on mine on my own 90% of the time but if i haven't ridden for a few days/ am in a strange place then i get someone to hold him or revert back to a leg up... are you on livery? surely someone can help you?

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An ambulance ringer sounds a good idea
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Yes, I am on livery but may not be at that time. However, it is part livery and only I go down in the morning to do my horses (due to work I cannot do them in the evening) and only ever me around when I am riding. On weekends though there is always the yard owner who could help!

My trainer will hopefully come and give me a hand too if I link it with a lesson on one of the girls...
 
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FWIW mine was 100% not a problem for saddle and roller on, lungeing in side reins and me leaning over him. he was also fine with me sitting on him in walk with a leader. it was when we tried to progress from there that he kept panicking so please don't assume that Troy will be ok. i was adamant that Vandi wasn't being sent away- i've helped loads of people break horses in (some easier than others) and really wanted to do mine myself...but i had to realise after a week that he needed someone with far more stickability than me (and i have great stickability!) mine only went away for 2 weeks tho- to get over the little problem he was having and then he came back so i've had most of the input into his training- and yes it is rewarding...
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i would definitely make sure you have someone around in the initial couple of months- even if they aren't holding him you need someone there to ring the ambulance if necessary
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i now get on mine on my own 90% of the time but if i haven't ridden for a few days/ am in a strange place then i get someone to hold him or revert back to a leg up... are you on livery? surely someone can help you?

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An ambulance ringer sounds a good idea
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Yes, I am on livery but may not be at that time. However, it is part livery and only I go down in the morning to do my horses (due to work I cannot do them in the evening) and only ever me around when I am riding. On weekends though there is always the yard owner who could help!

My trainer will hopefully come and give me a hand too if I link it with a lesson on one of the girls...

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good thinking batman. my dressage trainer has refused to help me get on because i always end up falling off when he's holding V for me! when my friend holds him he never does anything wrong! its all very amusing
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feel free! you really want my friend tho...she scares baby horses into keeping all 4 feet on the ground!
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She sounds ideal
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Can you package her up and send her recorded delivery if I use paypal
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Which is your young horse in your signature? If you are ever out competing BD with him in the future, you must let me know and hopefully we can eventually say hi and put a face to a name
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the scruffy looking bay on the far right. that was in his bog pony phase back in janaury (hairy, pudding basin hairdo, never had feet done or anything)...he looks much nicer now...just need to take some piccies of him and then i'll put them up. probs won't be out competing til tail end of this year...
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and no...you can't have her! she's all mine
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the scruffy looking bay on the far right. that was in his bog pony phase back in janaury (hairy, pudding basin hairdo, never had feet done or anything)...he looks much nicer now...just need to take some piccies of him and then i'll put them up. probs won't be out competing til tail end of this year...
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and no...you can't have her! she's all mine
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Ha! Guess it's KK?
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the scruffy looking bay on the far right. that was in his bog pony phase back in janaury (hairy, pudding basin hairdo, never had feet done or anything)...he looks much nicer now...just need to take some piccies of him and then i'll put them up. probs won't be out competing til tail end of this year...
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and no...you can't have her! she's all mine
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Ha! Guess it's KK?
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yes the one and only!
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she actually managed to drag him down from an attempted rear once!
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Hmmm... I think I might come up and steal her while you are sleeping
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When you get on your horsey and she is not there, only then will you realise my dastardly plot has been successful
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