bonny
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Has anyone tried this with their dog ? I’m considering using it but I’d love to hear anyone else’s experience with it and if it helped ?
Have you used it ?CBD oil inhibits the P450 enzyme in the liver and affects the metabolism of other drugs. It should not for instance be used alongside steroids.
There are different strengths and it would be easy to give too much if you didn't read up on the exact dose and measure dose accurately, to a fraction of a ml.
THC toxicity is a very real risk.
Have you used it ?
Mine isn’t on any drugs but he is having major seizures, I feel like cannabis is worth a try but I also want to do the right thing by him.
Thank you for your reply, my dog had just had a major fit in the house which is what led to my question. I spoke to my vet a couple of weeks ago, he did blood tests which showed nothing and we talked about medication but I got the feeling he thought it didn’t help much and I was reluctant to put him on life long medication which at best would reduce the number of fits he’s having. I don’t know what to do, earlier I was considering pts which sounds drastic but so is watching this happening and although my vet said he wouldn’t know when he’s having a seizure I’m finding that hard to believe. He’s only 3 and the number of seizures is increasing as well as the severity of them. Would you try cannabis oil or do you think it wouldn’t help ?Has your dog been investigated to find the cause of the seizures?
I would recommend following your vet's advice before trying to treat this yourself.
I had a dog with idiopathic grand mal epilepsy. She survived many years on daily veterinary prescribed medication and I administered rectal Diazepam for prolonged seizures. The medication controlled but did not eliminate the fits. She had cluster seizures and on medication could have a couple of weeks free between clusters.
She was a happy, bright dog and I never considered euthanasia as she enjoyed life to the full.
She was eventually put to sleep due to status epilepticus. She was 6 when diagnosed and 12 when she died.
Please feel free to ask me anything, I'll try to help if I can.
ETA. Annie was taking Epiphen and potassium bromide daily - these did not affect her quality of life - she was not drowsy on them. There was no evidence for using Pexion for cluster seizures so this wasn't tried.
Thank you for your reply, my dog had just had a major fit in the house which is what led to my question. I spoke to my vet a couple of weeks ago, he did blood tests which showed nothing and we talked about medication but I got the feeling he thought it didn’t help much and I was reluctant to put him on life long medication which at best would reduce the number of fits he’s having. I don’t know what to do, earlier I was considering pts which sounds drastic but so is watching this happening and although my vet said he wouldn’t know when he’s having a seizure I’m finding that hard to believe. He’s only 3 and the number of seizures is increasing as well as the severity of them. Would you try cannabis oil or do you think it wouldn’t help ?
Please be careful of your own safety also as my friend was very badly bitten when her dog was coming out of a seizure, he was confused and scared and her hand/arm was the closest thing to his mouth. They were on a walk at the time in the middle of nowhere. If you have any other dogs keep them out of the way when your dog is fitting as they can also be very wary of why their mate is acting so oddly.
Thank you for your reply, my dog had just had a major fit in the house which is what led to my question. I spoke to my vet a couple of weeks ago, he did blood tests which showed nothing and we talked about medication but I got the feeling he thought it didn’t help much and I was reluctant to put him on life long medication which at best would reduce the number of fits he’s having. I don’t know what to do, earlier I was considering pts which sounds drastic but so is watching this happening and although my vet said he wouldn’t know when he’s having a seizure I’m finding that hard to believe. He’s only 3 and the number of seizures is increasing as well as the severity of them. Would you try cannabis oil or do you think it wouldn’t help ?
The treatment sounded very hit or miss and at best they aim for a 50% reduction in the number of fits which as he is irregular in the number he’s having would make it difficult to know if it was having any effect ?I'd go for proper medication any day over an untried un proven drug like cannabis oil - if you're vet didnt seem very confident with seizures I'd find another vet.
Thank you very much for that Skinnydipper, that’s useful reading and from that limited trial it does appear the oil is worth considering. I have bought some but not used it yet and I’m planning on seeing a different vet who I know and trust his opinion. The vet I saw I wasn’t very taken with ! Lots to think about and so far no fits today, yesterday was terrible and he can’t go on like that .
The treatment sounded very hit or miss and at best they aim for a 50% reduction in the number of fits which as he is irregular in the number he’s having would make it difficult to know if it was having any effect ?
Thank you for that, I am still considering options and doing research. There certainly are a lot of different opinions on what’s best and I’m going to go and see a different vet that I like.If you don't want to medically treat your dog for what sounds like worsening epilepsy then that's your call but to be quite frank it's a bad one.
one seizure has a very different recommendation on management to multiples and clusters of seizures. You really need to talk to your vet again. Increasing frequency changes the treatment plan completely.
Those increasing seizures need treatment and are likely to worsen. The longer you delay treatment the less likely you are to be able to control this if it is true epilepsy.
Cluster seizures are where you have mutlipe seizures together so the body never gets a chance to recover or cool down after all that movement. Clusters or excessively long seizures are the biggest risk in this condition as these can lead to death due to hyperthermia from the excessive muscle movement.
Any reduction is better then ongoing seizures and the risk they entail if they have started to increase in frequency.
Generally over 5 minutes of nonstop fitting and you've essentially cooked the internal parts if the dog and it will be brain dead when the seizure eventually stops. The body shuts down after. That's what the medications trying to avoid.
It makes 0 sense to use cannabis instead of trialling the medications with known efficacy for this condition. If all else fails then by all means it's worth a go..but as a first line of defence it's a bad call until we learn more about that drug in dogs.
There are multiple recognised and quite reliable treatment options for canine epilepsy. The aim of treatment is generally to reduce frequency and length of seizures in the hopes of avoiding the fatal clusters seizures. It's rarely 100 percent perfect few medications are...but many dogs respond very well once correctly medicated at the right dose.
At 3 his treatment will be lifelong but if he responds well to medication it could be quite a long and otherwise normal life.
I don’t know what side effects you think cbd oil has ? My dog now gets it twice a day and has since I first posted this. Apart from the cost I don’t see any drawbacks to using it.skinnydipper was actually right about considering all pros and cons before using CBD oil, my mother had a dog, it was diagnosed with something really severe and incurable, it did have pains as well, that's why the dog was prescribed to use CBD oil, now I have something similar with my dog, however I don't want my dog to suffer consequently from the side effects of CBD oil. Has anyone used any kratom types in treating your dogs? i have heard that it's totally worth a try, however I haven't heard anything about pets. Can you suggest anything? Is it safe? Thanks in advance.
I don’t know what side effects you think cbd oil has ? My dog now gets it twice a day and has since I first posted this. Apart from the cost I don’t see any drawbacks to using it.
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