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Let's go for the whip round! We could register him as "HHO Gamble" - could be the start of a whole new prefix! I agree with the turning him away for the winter - let him get woolly, and have time to chill (no pun intended!) and sort out his poor, muddled head. Sounds like what he really needs is time, but I fear that someone will just want to make a quick profit.....such a shame. Go for it SC!
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To be honest my horse is 6 and quite hard work to understand and I think if I didnt spend a lot of time analysing his behaviour and working with him he could end up in the same situation. He is gorgeous but if you were the sort of person who had no patience and did everything in a hurry he could probably turn delinquent.
 
he sounds alot like my horse was when I first got him. He is now a lovely genuine horse who once you have his trust really tries his heart out for you. It sounds like he needs a one to one relationship with someone who knows what they are doing and is patient,calm and prepared to put the work in.Hopefully he will come right for them in the end. However the ridden part still screams back issue to me.I think if I owned this horse I would have got xrays done of his back not just had an osteopath out to look.afterall they can not see inside his back as to whether there is a nerve pinching somewhere at certain points in time causing these flip outs.
 
i had one like this who was lovely sometimes and a rear horror at other times.

i will get on anything but i stopped riding him. my boss took him on for a few months but he never really came right and ended up as Pedigree Chum.

some horses are truly dangerous (probably only 1 in 500,000) but i find it worrying so many people think an unpredictable horse will be so easily sorted with some time in a field and a bit of firmness from the rider.

i have dealt with many 'problem' horses and turned them around successfully but this one i bought was something else and i think a lot of caution needs to be used in a horse who flips out for no reason at all.
 
From what I have been told, this one doesn't do it for no reason at all. Having had one which went over 3 times with me, there is a big difference between what you are describing (which I agree is a pain) and what this horse was described to me as.....
 
i agree with spike on back issues. i had a hideous bucker who used to turn himself inside out occasionally, eventually diagnosed with severe kissing spines (this was in about 1991, before they were common) and operated on, never bucked again...
i rode a horse for someone who would be sweet as a nut for 20 mins and then just explode until rider came off (me, twice, unfortunately, injured the 2nd time), and was then instantly calm again, who turned out to have major problems at the base of its spine/top of tail.
physical, perhaps causing mental probs too.
time, 1-on-1, tlc, etc, doesn't work with all of them. most, but not all.
 
not necessarily this one (obviously you have spoken to the woman so know the story) but just the general concencous that every horse can be sorted with a bit of time and firmness.

mine was more than a 'pain' he broke my sternum, kicked someone in the head when they were riding out with him (bucked so high he got her in the head!), pinned someone else to the wall, threw himself to the ground time and again.

amongst all of this he was so talented my boss showed him to the Irish Eventing Performance Manager but he decided it wasn't worth carrying on.

and i bet everyone on here would have though he could be turned around as he was broken by a 17yro girl at home with no help, so she probably did something wrong, and he could also put in the most wonderful work in the school and be an angel to hack until the switch flicked without warning.
 
Yes I agree - some need a one-way ticket to Potters! I know I'd be v careful about what I took on 'project' wise in future having had the horse I used to. She would be brilliant one minute, then throw herself over backwards the next.

You are right about people thinking everything can be turned around with some TLC/firm handling/Parelli/whatever - nope, some of them just need a bullet asap!
 
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I would very much like to go and see this horse. Am currently trying to talk myself out of it! It sounds like a typical warmblood-owned-by-a-novice, and good in traffic would be one up on what I have now!

Someone tell me I am barmy.......good job I am going on holiday on Saturday for a week, I expect it will have gone by the time I am back!

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Go and have a look
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FWIW I think you're bang on about him, from the ad. It sounds like they can't cope with him and hoped that if they put him out on loan, the loaners would sort him out then they'd get back a nice easy horse.
 
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I would very much like to go and see this horse. Am currently trying to talk myself out of it! It sounds like a typical warmblood-owned-by-a-novice, and good in traffic would be one up on what I have now!

Someone tell me I am barmy.......good job I am going on holiday on Saturday for a week, I expect it will have gone by the time I am back!

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Go and have a look
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FWIW I think you're bang on about him, from the ad. It sounds like they can't cope with him and hoped that if they put him out on loan, the loaners would sort him out then they'd get back a nice easy horse.

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I've rung - the story makes sense, I don't think he is a total loon at all, but I cannot get to see him until I get back from holiday - she has some eventers seeing him tomorrow and other people next week if the weekend people don't want him. If he's still about when I get back from hols, I may go and see him, though OH does not agree it is a good idea!
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Yes I agree - some need a one-way ticket to Potters! I know I'd be v careful about what I took on 'project' wise in future having had the horse I used to. She would be brilliant one minute, then throw herself over backwards the next.

You are right about people thinking everything can be turned around with some TLC/firm handling/Parelli/whatever - nope, some of them just need a bullet asap!

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Couldn't agree more!!! Some just can't be fixed, and human safety is paramount!!!
 
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not necessarily this one (obviously you have spoken to the woman so know the story) but just the general concencous that every horse can be sorted with a bit of time and firmness.

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I totally agree! I unknowingly bought a horse with serious behavioural problems who I eventually had advertised in a very upfront way- no matter how you word it people assume you must be a totally incapable idiot and that isn't always the case. Was a total waste of time advertising him, interested parties were very quick to brush off his downsides without being all that interested in the various avenues I had pursued investing huge amounts of time and money in trying to sort him out. He went to professional comp home in the end and did very well with them, so despite the stress and the money I lost there was a happy ending for him.

Not saying that is the case here at all btw, just speaking generally, although interesting that people's reactions on here seem to be assumptions that the owner is a selfish idiot who doesn't give a toss about the horse or anyone else.

The ad says, "this horse is an absolut tit put on this earth to try and make the best horsey people look like complete novices and put the fear of god in any one that looks like they no what they are doing should be freeze marked 666." ... with that in mind £800 actually sounds quite expensive to me, pretty big gamble IMO.

Be interesting to hear how you get on if you do go SC, I hope he manages to find a suitable home one way or another.
 
I think, from speaking to her, she is trying to put off the people you describe in your first paragraph. Equally, what someone else thinks of as awful, other people don't mind. She hasn't had a professional rider on it at all at any stage. I certainly don't think she is a selfish idiot, I think she is the victim of an unfortunate set of circumstances, as is the horse. I fully expect it will be sold over the weekend.
 
......a very well written advert to ofload a dangerous horse for more money than he's worth

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......a poor lady driven to wirte such an ad to ward off novices and competitives???
 
I feel so guilty - i am probably about 40 mins away from the area and have one of the best trainers of difficult horses about 10 mins away. I currently feel like jumping in the box and going to fetch it now - but i have 3 already and a full time job and a project house.
 
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