Cartrophen

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I've had a look on the forum already with regards to Cartrophen but wondering if there's some newer experiences.

My older boy had Arthramid injected in to both hocks last Winter as he was gradually becoming a bit slower and stiffer. Two vets came out to do his 'lameness' assessment and both agreed that it was likely his hocks that needed done. I was slightly dubious about this and thought possibly higher up but I took their knowledge and decided to x ray the hocks and inject. Both hocks weren't actually 'too bad' according to them on viewing the x-rays. The lead vet at the time said 'if this doesn't work you can try Cartrophen'.

Anyway, if I'm honest, it's 10 months down the line and I've not seen much change in him. He's no longer squaring off his hind hooves when trotting on tarmac(not that we do a lot of that I may add, only if having to trot/jog to passing place if car coming) so the Arthramid must have done something but nothing obviously enough to make a significant difference. We have a substantial hill on the yard and he is quite short in his stride going down it, thankfully there is a flatter alternative route but nonetheless it has highlighted that he's just not right.

I'm keen to try Cartrophen as I gather it works all over. Has it worked for anyone and if so, what for? The Arthramid had mixed responses when I asked around about it, some seen great results and others seen nothing. I think Cartrophen is more proven? How much is it roughly? It would seem on reading that there's a few block of injections over a period of time too. He is no longer insured, Arthramid last year with xrays cost just over £1.3k. I'm also happy to hear of any other options out there, whether maybe it's time for a bute a day or something else. I've changed vet clinics too so it would be good to have a bit of knowledge behind any discussion with them.
 
The old boy has it every three months, it was every week for 4 loading doses, then onto the maintenance dose.
He seems to be doing well on it, it's not too dear if you're happy to inject yourself (iirc about £100 per dose for him, he's 14.1).
Some only need it every 6 months from what I understand.
 
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I had hock injections (no X-rays) on my 16 year old dressage horse. As I had no X-rays at the same time we did arthropen (pentosan same as cartrophen), and bozmerix (I got a big box and it was £300- it lasted 3 months for bozmerix.

Arthropen is an all round rather than specific and he had 1 injection per week x 4 weeks which I did myself. Total bill including call and all treatments was £1200. He went from slightly lame for 2 months to apparently sound within 2 days.

I can’t say which treatment worked or all three. This was in May and all good so far- he will be done again December as it’s quite obvious it’s arthritis but I won’t have bozmerix this time and see how we go
 
I called Cartropen the Magic Potion when I messaged my vet to come give us a top up on Tuesday 😂 for us it is still suspected mildly arthritic hocks and slipping stifles but it helped get us over an uncomfortable spot in spring. It got pony comfortable enough to do the strengthening work that was needed to improve in the long term and do it happily. We are 7 months out and going to do a prophylactic dose (a month late, whoops) to keep us ticking over into winter. Cost is as SpeedyPony says but worth it in my ppinion.
 
medial meniscus & patellar ligament injury, SDFT injury in both hinds, and collateral ligament injury in both fronts plus keratoma removal - so 3 courses in total, each course was 7 injections on i think tuesdays and fridays.

we’ve had good results so far!😂
 
I called Cartropen the Magic Potion when I messaged my vet to come give us a top up on Tuesday 😂 for us it is still suspected mildly arthritic hocks and slipping stifles but it helped get us over an uncomfortable spot in spring. It got pony comfortable enough to do the strengthening work that was needed to improve in the long term and do it happily. We are 7 months out and going to do a prophylactic dose (a month late, whoops) to keep us ticking over into winter. Cost is as SpeedyPony says but worth it in my ppinion.

We had our "repeat prescription" check up yesterday and vet very happy with pony's progress, despite some unrelated lameness from a slip in the paddock. Much more symmetrical, better muscle, did a stifle flexion that had her 3 leg hopping in March (I got quite upset about it, it was brutal), and this time it barely made a difference. MAGIC POTION. Signed up for another 2No. now and then 3 month intervals or when needed over the winter.
 
So we’ve decided to try some Bozmerix first to see if that makes any difference. If not, we will go down the cartrophen route. Vet said he was only very mildly lame on right hind and you would have to really look for it. Hopefully the bozmerix may do something or it’ll be a 4 week initial course of cartrophen! £££
 
I’m about to call my vet for a Cartrophen top up (although the initial course was 6 months ago so I hope it’s not too late for a top up)
I think it helped my boy. He has ‘grumbles’ in several joints so it’s preferable to try to treat them systemically than to go poking round in joints (with the potential that at the time it’s not THAT joint that’s bothering him)

I feed high strength Boswellia but I can’t say I’m noticing any real difference.
 
I had Mary's hocks injected with steroids in April, and was planning to try cartrophen this autumn if she got worse, but with injections and a mix of boswellia, devil's claw, meadowsweet, green-lipped mussel, glucosamine, MSM and chondroitin she has been fine all summer.

A massive help has also been getting the farrier on board. Her bad hock is the one she moves a bit funny, and has always hand a funny landing pattern that causes flare. Farrier intervention has straightened that up a lot.
 
Just note that they will typically be better in the summer with thr warmer weather. Its when it gets chilly and damp that the arthritis can really flare up. Mine tends to get achey a few days before we get a change in weather or a storm as well
 
Day 6 and I’m not noticing much difference however it is very damp today. I thought he looked ok on day 4 as he was jogging in from the field and didn’t look so slow down the hill. That may be a placebo effect though…
 
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