Cat killed by hunt

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Absolutely disgusting. If they can't call the hounds off then they shouldn't be allowed to roam in the countryside. I bet if this was a group of kids who's dogs attack their cat there would be uproar on this site. How is this any different?

U an anti then? It is not disgusting, it is sad and unfortunate and shows hounds could be better controlled as they are at my hunt, where they routinely call them off all sorts of animals. A tad over the top in your response me thinks!
 

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It is not purely the fact that dogs killed a cat, that happens. But what annoys me is the fact the hunt thought little enough of a family pets life, to return it in a dog food bag 2 days later. The behaviour of dogs may not be able to be stopped in time. But the behaviour of the humans afterwards certainly could have been. Horrible, thoughtless peiple.
 

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Imagine if this was a group of chavs with their dogs, off lead, and the dogs mauled the cat because they weren't under control, then the chavs gave the remains back in a JD bag all of you would go ****ing mental. But because it was people on a hunt its completely different. Hypocrites. Whether the cat was deaf/old/one legged, the point is, these dogs were NOT under control. Could have happened to a horse or even a child. Why is this turning into a pro hunt discussion anyway? Someone lost a much loved pet.
 

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I own a deaf cat and if it'd happened to mine, I would not just be sad, but bl**dy furious.
Although the loss of life is exactly the same with anything (Fox, cat, horse, human, dog, tiger...whatever) there's more emotion and feeling tied in with a pet.
I don't blame the dogs for killing the cat, I blame the owners who were not able to control them. Who's to say they wouldn't rip a child to bits if it 'panicked' and ran? I know cats more closely resemble foxes, but the idea is the same.

When my dog could hear (I know, 2 deaf animals haha) I could call her off the chase, even sheep. (she's a collie)

Whatever hunt it was should train their dogs better. A family lost a precious pet, because of lack of training.

Poor thing :(

Could not have put it better myself /\/\
 

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U an anti then? It is not disgusting, it is sad and unfortunate and shows hounds could be better controlled as they are at my hunt, where they routinely call them off all sorts of animals. A tad over the top in your response me thinks!

This story has absolutely nothing to do with whether one is pro or anti-hunting. A much loved pet was killed by out of control dogs, no excuses should be made just because these dogs were Foxhounds.

A question, what "all sorts of animals" are you referring to?
 

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Where are people getting this idea that foxhounds are suddenly going to rip children to bits? ! They're not dumb, they can differentiate between small furries and human beings.
I think if there was a list of breeds responsible for attacks on humans, foxhounds would be well down the list, if even on it at all.
 

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This was a very unfortunate accident- and certainly the hunt should have handled it a bit more tactfully.

But it's worth remembering that when a motorist runs over a cat (and more cats are killed on the road than will EVER be killed by hounds and pet dogs combined) the motorist is under no legal obligation to even stop and ensure the animal is actually dead - or get help if it is not. The owner MIGHT find it in due course, in a ditch or squashed flat on the road. And the Daily Mail (or even the local rags) won't give it two lines of print - because 'Cat gets killed by car' isn't a story!
 

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Omg can't believe that people are actually saying it could have been a child! Yes we would all be in uproar if some chavs had dine it but that would have been a deliberate act of cruelty not an accident as this appears to be.
 

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I spoke to a local huntmaster today, and mentioned this. He said cats are his nemesis. During hound excersise when they go through villages they dread seeing cats, and they often do. They do tease the hounds, particually the ginger ones!! He hasn't had an inccodent yet, but has had many close calls.

This cat wasn't mauled (doesn't look like it?!) so maybe shock took him, quite easy being 18, and of course the hounds are to blame for that, but really it is petty IMHO that this has made 'headline' news.
 

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This was a very unfortunate accident- and certainly the hunt should have handled it a bit more tactfully.

But it's worth remembering that when a motorist runs over a cat (and more cats are killed on the road than will EVER be killed by hounds and pet dogs combined) the motorist is under no legal obligation to even stop and ensure the animal is actually dead - or get help if it is not. The owner MIGHT find it in due course, in a ditch or squashed flat on the road. And the Daily Mail (or even the local rags) won't give it two lines of print - because 'Cat gets killed by car' isn't a story!

This!!!!
 

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Come and watch my two terriers. I can and have called them off a rabbit just before they were about to kill. Its called training.
I do wonder about the skills of some hunt staff these days, some seem a little amateurish.

I agree. I called my two terriers off a baby hare.
 

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BBC report cat torn apart! Factual journalism based on pics of cat. Not. Hounds are not pets who have been to training classes and are bred to do a job. Huntsman have an amazing relationship with their hounds. As with any living creature nothing is 100% all of the time. How many bombproof horses have a one off spook and seriously injure a rider.
 

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I had a lovely cat who wasnt scared of dogs in any way, she used to put the beat down on my friends dobbie! lol

She was out in the park behind my old house and 2 lurchers got a hold of her because she didnt run away. It all happened rather fast and i saw the whole thing from my back window. I ran outside and somehow jumped the 5ft fence (not sure how as i am not the most athletic, amazing what adrenaline does!) The guy ran off with his dogs when he saw me but i wasnt fast enough to save my poor wee moggy, she was dead.

Anyway, the point to the story is just because a cat gets caught by a dog doesnt mean it will get ripped to pieces. When dogs catch their prey they shake their head violently (like they do with a toy) which breaks the spine/neck. I am assuming the huntsman managed to get the hounds off before the hounds started having a tug of war game.

There is really no excuse for the way he handled it though.
 

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Oh the drama,just an unfortunate mishap ,cats are`nt usually so careless. One of my hounds brought me a wet and dead half grown cat..he was most polite and asked if it could be revived! He definitely was not the killer,he and his brother were ruled by the yard cat. Meanwhile I shall retire and continue in my corner rocking and clutching my smelling salts about those of you (INCLUDING CC!!!) who call hounds that curr word..d...s. :D:eek::D:eek::D
 

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Oh the drama,just an unfortunate mishap ,cats are`nt usually so careless. One of my hounds brought me a wet and dead half grown cat..he was most polite and asked if it could be revived! He definitely was not the killer,he and his brother were ruled by the yard cat. Meanwhile I shall retire and continue in my corner rocking and clutching my smelling salts about those of you (INCLUDING CC!!!) who call hounds that curr word..d...s. :D:eek::D:eek::D

The cat died, thats a bit more than a mishap, i find it sad how little value the life of this cat was to some people.
 

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I don't think the cat being careless is such a ridiculous notion, their other cat was fine he was in a stable. Obviously being deaf this cat was at a disadvantage for being able to do this.
 

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Not to be anal, but i think you can safely say it is a ridiculous notion. The cat was on its own territory and i doubt it was thinking, oh am deaf, i better be careful incase a hunt comes charging down the field and gets me.

Its a cat, not a person. lol
 

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From the info I have heard the cat was sat next to its cat flap... the house was closely adjacient to the bridle path and obv in a panic the cat shot into the middle of the pack... Most likely died of shock tbh as in the pics it doesn't exactly look 'mauled', the hounds only reacted like any hounds would and the huntsman must of done well to call them off so quickly.

It was an accident, nothing to do with incompetance on the huntsmans part.

Horrible things happen, but really its been completly sensationlised by the peice of shite that is the daily mail. Our local paper reported it factually and without the need for the inaccurate tripe printed in the daily mail that has got everyone so worked up...!!

Move on I say, apologies have been made and I expect the cat's owners have had a nice payout from the daily mail to soften the blow!!
 

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If some ones pet dog savaged and killed my cat I would be asking for the dog to be pts and would expect it to be muzzled. I really don't get why hunt hounds are allowed to get away with behaviour thay would lead to the average pet dog being pts.
 

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If some ones pet dog savaged and killed my cat I would be asking for the dog to be pts and would expect it to be muzzled. I really don't get why hunt hounds are allowed to get away with behaviour thay would lead to the average pet dog being pts.


Yep that will make everything better, shoot 27 hunting hounds because unfortunatley a cat crossed their path... :confused:
 

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If some ones pet dog savaged and killed my cat I would be asking for the dog to be pts and would expect it to be muzzled. I really don't get why hunt hounds are allowed to get away with behaviour thay would lead to the average pet dog being pts.

Why do you think a dog should be PTS for killing a cat?
If a dog came into your garden, away from any owner there may be a case for it to be considered dangerously out of control but if your cat was on the pavement then it would be your fault the cat was in a position where a dog could grab it.

Attacking a cat would not lead to any pet dog being PTS.
 

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Not to be anal, but i think you can safely say it is a ridiculous notion. The cat was on its own territory and i doubt it was thinking, oh am deaf, i better be careful incase a hunt comes charging down the field and gets me.

Its a cat, not a person. lol

no careless is an anthropomorphic term but cats are (in their natural/less pet like form) not without predators and therefore it would be normal for them to be aware of their surroundings and attempt to remove themselves if the situation warrants it. My farrier turns up .. my cat buggers off to the other side of the field
 

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So tonight I have learned that hounds are capable of ripping children to shreds (even though I have never come across any cases of a hound attacking a human being) and any pet dog which kills a cat should be themselves killed (muzzled first, for some reason, then killed) because, er, it could have been a child? OK.....
 

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A cat didn't cross their path, they crossed amd killed it. I expect individuals to have their dogs under control when I hack out, walk out or my family pets are out and about. Hunt dogs are no different. To be frank I am always disconcerted by the somewhay creepy double standards that hunt followers use when seperating 'hound behaviour' and chasing small animals compared to 'dog behaviour' and chavs dogs killing the same. Chavs pit bulls may be trained to attack other animals for sport - scratch a dog baiter and a huntsmen and I think you'll find the same underneath.
 

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So tonight I have learned that hounds are capable of ripping children to shreds (even though I have never come across any cases of a hound attacking a human being) and any pet dog which kills a cat should be themselves killed (muzzled first, for some reason, then killed) because, er, it could have been a child? OK.....

Learn something new everyday... :rolleyes:
 

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well I think this thread has demonstrated that humans are a diverse bunch with regards to what they think, feel and reason, which essentially to me is no bad thing :)
 
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