Caught a thief in store room on camera !!

jesstickle said:
I was trying to be light hearted but if you're going to get pissy over it on a Saturday night suit yourself :rolleyes:

I still don't see why you think cruelty to mice is ok but presumably cruelty to dogs cats and horses isn't. I could be wrong. Perhaps you think it would perfectly acceptable to poison the dartmoor hill ponies when they need culling.
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Right well heres lighthearted for you and when i get pi$$y you'll know about it ;)

Find me a reason/use for a wild mouse??? Other than food for a cat/hawk/dog whatever else might munch on it. What is a gnuine reason for me to keep them about??

heres my reasons for keeping a dog

company
house security
mouse munching

heres my reasons for my cats

company
mouse munching
vermin deterrant

Heres my reasons for horses/dartmoor hill ponies

Riding
Showing
driving

So state me a wild mouses use, and dont say pet as you cant make a pet out of a wild mouse, you would kill it with stress everytime to went hear it ;)
 
Isn't it funny how humankind often hates the animals which adapt to living near to us? We are a messy species, leaving our waste all over the planet and polluting it. But when another species feeds off our mess, we call them "pests" and "vermin" and wish them all sorts of horrible deaths.

I don't see it that way. think we're all just creatures sharing the planet and I personally will avoid killing my fellow beasts where possible. If the biscuits are in a tin, Mr Mouse won't get them. And as for him coming back if removed, he won't if you take him far enough. He's a mouse. He doesn't use transport. :D
 
I'm not saying he's useful. I'm saying on the grounds of animal welfare that I think poisoning is distinctly unpleasant. Dartmoor hill ponies were the example I used. They are little more than vermin and they do get culled occasionally. Would you be happy for that to be done by poisoning them?
 
NiknKia said:
Right well heres lighthearted for you and when i get pi$$y you'll know about it ;)

Find me a reason/use for a wild mouse??? Other than food for a cat/hawk/dog whatever else might munch on it. What is a gnuine reason for me to keep them about??

heres my reasons for keeping a dog

company
house security
mouse munching

heres my reasons for my cats

company
mouse munching
vermin deterrant

Heres my reasons for horses/dartmoor hill ponies

Riding
Showing
driving

So state me a wild mouses use, and dont say pet as you cant make a pet out of a wild mouse, you would kill it with stress everytime to went hear it ;)
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So you actually believe species are only of value if they are of "use" to mankind? Wow. That's sad. I feel sorry for you.
 
FionaM12 said:
So you actually believe species are only of value if they are of "use" to mankind? Wow. That's sad. I feel sorry for you.
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:rolleyes:

Im off the fluffy bunnies are out in force tonight, its great that you feel sorry for me, for what I have no idea but you go on feeling superior in the knowledge that you feel sorry for a person who thinks of mice as vermin, if that perks up your day then my work here is done :D

You would be better using your sympathy on people who really need it but hey ho Thanks :D
 
FionaM12 said:
And as for him coming back if removed, he won't if you take him far enough. He's a mouse. He doesn't use transport. :D
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Spray a little dot on him, you'd be surprised!!! Or he'll just go to someone else's stable/house.

Again - if they are in your house, are you happy?!

I found a poisoned one once, wobbling sadly on a pile of magazines :( , my mother's then-partner grabbed the first thing available to hand, which was a giant wooden spoon hanging on the wall beside a giant wooden fork (children of the 60s, 70s and 80s will know what I mean :o) and splatted it.
Was cruel, yet funny :o
 
you could always get a carrot stick and tame it lol. Seriously though just put all food in vermin proof containers and they will move out of their own accord.
 
NiknKia said:
:rolleyes:

Im off the fluffy bunnies are out in force tonight, its great that you feel sorry for me, for what I have no idea but you go on feeling superior in the knowledge that you feel sorry for a person who thinks of mice as vermin, if that perks up your day then my work here is done :D

You would be better using your sympathy on people who really need it but hey ho Thanks :D
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Oo. First time I've ever been called a fluffy bunny that's for damn sure! I'm usually the one that gets called cold and disinterested or what ever it was last week!
 
FionaM12 said:
Isn't it funny how humankind often hates the animals which adapt to living near to us? We are a messy species, leaving our waste all over the planet and polluting it. But when another species feeds off our mess, we call them "pests" and "vermin" and wish them all sorts of horrible deaths.

I don't see it that way. think we're all just creatures sharing the planet and I personally will avoid killing my fellow beasts where possible. If the biscuits are in a tin, Mr Mouse won't get them. And as for him coming back if removed, he won't if you take him far enough. He's a mouse. He doesn't use transport. :D
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We are the biggest pest on this planet, wonder how long it will be before someone stamps on us.
 
Pedantic said:
We are the biggest pest on this planet, wonder how long it will be before someone stamps on us.
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Truest statement in the thread. Except, no-one will stamp on us, we're killing our own environment and will eventually die out from our own irresponsibility.

My hero is David Attenborough. Ask him if we should only care about "useful" species. And if he's a fluffy bunny, then I'm proud to be one too.
 
I think a couple of very sweet kittens would solve all problems - and there are sooo many cute abandoned kittens looking for a nice home. In fact, time I went to get some as I too hate poison!!

PS That picture has made me want to have a coffee and choccie biscuit - damn!!
 
I would give him another biscuit to take home with him! I have a larger cousin of his who comes out every evening after feed time and takes some carrot or hard bread from my hand. Very cute but OH would be furious if he caught me as he's trying to get rid of them :(
 
Fairynuff said:
I would give him another biscuit to take home with him! I have a larger cousin of his who comes out every evening after feed time and takes some carrot or hard bread from my hand. Very cute but OH would be furious if he caught me as he's trying to get rid of them :(
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"A larger cousin" really made me laugh! I love all animals, I used to have pet rats, they're intelligent creatures. And I adore the grey squirrels which come to my birdfeeder.

It's not the animals' fault that there may be health risks or that they were irresponsibly introduced where they don't belong. They're just trying to survive.

I'm not saying we don't sometimes have to control populations, but when we do, it's usually our fault there was a problem (habitat destruction, leaving our dirty waste about, etc). As for "hating" animals for being themselves.... never. Any more than I could hate any of your horses.
 
canteron said:
I think a couple of very sweet kittens would solve all problems - and there are sooo many cute abandoned kittens looking for a nice home. In fact, time I went to get some as I too hate poison!!

PS That picture has made me want to have a coffee and choccie biscuit - damn!!
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For a more humane dispatch, probably a couple of terriers would be kinder than cats. Cats are sadistic killers, although very effective and nicely fluffy.
Better to keep food in tins and sweep the feed room daily as the most humane form of pest control.
Last winter we thought we had a carrot thief in the feed room, carrots kept going missing and one night a whole sack full disappeared. The mystery was solved when the carrots where hung from the ceiling and were still there the next day. Not a thief, just rats.
I have lost a few fleeces and a thermatex in the tackroom to mice who seem to love eating them.
 
I was once moving yards so was clearing out my straw bed. There was just one corner that I never seemed to touch or turn the banks on and there was about 4 families of baby mouses. All of different ages from just born and naked through to older little babies. They were so cute that I really struggled to just put them on the muck heap :(
 
MiCsarah said:
I was once moving yards so was clearing out my straw bed. There was just one corner that I never seemed to touch or turn the banks on and there was about 4 families of baby mouses. All of different ages from just born and naked through to older little babies. They were so cute that I really struggled to just put them on the muck heap :(
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Noooooooooo :eek:
 
FionaM12 said:
"A larger cousin" really made me laugh! I love all animals, I used to have pet rats, they're intelligent creatures. And I adore the grey squirrels which come to my birdfeeder.

It's not the animals' fault that there may be health risks or that they were irresponsibly introduced where they don't belong. They're just trying to survive.

I'm not saying we don't sometimes have to control populations, but when we do, it's usually our fault there was a problem (habitat destruction, leaving our dirty waste about, etc). As for "hating" animals for being themselves.... never. Any more than I could hate any of your horses.
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I think I like you! :)
 
wewillshowyou said:
Mice don't bother me too much as they just live in the corner of my stable with the rest of the Stuart Little family.
But i HATE rats. vile vile vile!!! i'd kill one in a heartbeat
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Why? Rats are just big mice. I actually like rats and had 2 which were 'removed' from the Medical Research Centre in Mill Hill. Blodwen and Winifred, they were extremely clean (they removed their bedding every day to air it :)) very friendly and intelligent. They had the run of my room every evening and kept me entertained for hours. They really tickle when they snuffle in your ear. Rats should have rights! :D
 
Fairynuff said:
Why? Rats are just big mice. I actually like rats and had 2 which were 'removed' from the Medical Research Centre in Mill Hill. Blodwen and Winifred, they were extremely clean (they removed their bedding every day to air it :)) very friendly and intelligent. They had the run of my room every evening and kept me entertained for hours. They really tickle when they snuffle in your ear. Rats should have rights! :D
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I used to have pet rats, but they are very different to wild one, in that wild rats do spread disease, weils being one that springs to mind. We where plagued with rats a few years ago, and while the terriers and cat got a few, we did end up putting poisen down because we could'nt keep on top of them, and they had eaten into the stonework of the cottage! :eek: It went against my better judgement, but they were out of control!
 
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