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I wasn't quite sure whether the post this in here or in Breeding :/

I've posted before about looking for a youngster/yearling and after a few possibilities I came across this one advertised.

She is a yearling Welsh x TB to make 16.1hh. Does anyone have info on the cross?

And finally, the photo.. She seems a very young yearling but the breeder has said that her older siblings were late maturing so I think she is following suit. Any CC...

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It's a cross that I like very much. Infact I've known many native x TB's that were really talented horses over the years. I would view her based on that photo as nothing negative is jumping out. :) As she's with her breeder, also look at her dam, sire and her siblings if possible.
 
Is she TB on Welsh or the other way round ? Confo wise I think she has a poor neck set and is coarse in the gullet which may make it difficult to flex. Having said that yearlings can and do change a lot as they mature
 
I adore my Welsh x TB, we bought him as a three year old from his breeder. From pictures she had of him as a yearling he was fairly immature too.

Definitely go and see dam, sire and siblings if possible.
 
As Faracat said nothing negative jumps out - youngsters do go through some pretty fugly phases so looking at siblings and parents is your best bet!:) By the way I have messaged you Always-Riding- sorry for the late response, I didn't realise the darn new H&H forum doesn't tell you if you have mail!!:rolleyes:
 
I have a 20 year old home bred mare out of a WelshDXArabXTB mare to a TB stallion and she is en exceptionally beautiful horse but is very temperamental. She has had hoof problems over the last 10 years and was retired due to this before she really proved herself useful so has been a field ornament for a long time but I would never part with her.
 
I think welshxTB is a lovely mix, can be sharp but are generally very capable horses. Won't give you any cc because yearlings are very hard to cc with a great deal of certainty, but there is nothing obviously negative about him.
 
I like him, much nicer than the TB x Welsh yearling I had which was positively ugly and not very well put together (he is 3 soon and not any better! I sold him in 2011 thankfully).

They can make a good cross I have heard if you get the mix right and I think he could be quite nice. On a random note, I love the other horse in the pic stood by the handler, wondering what they are doing! :biggrin3:
 
TB dam and Welsh sire - Janton Lightening

The filly is 6 hours drive from me so will most likely be buying unseen.

To compare this is a photo taken a couple months ago, before her summer coat apparently.
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Out of interest, how much would you say the breeder is asking for her? (I've been comparing prices on similar youngsters and she isn't in that bracket so just interested to see what others think)
 
It's a fun cross.
I think this will mature ok and it's going though one of the OMG stages that scares you when you breed them however judging from the photo I don't think her heads very well set butane I have seen better necks but if you want her as a alrounder it should not hold you back.
She's a lovely colour and will be very pretty I think .
I have no idea of value sorry.
 
The stallion is unproven under saddle himself although he is from a good family. I think £800.00 would be more than enough to buy her in the current market. Very few people will be buying youngstock as we head into winter and I expect there will be plenty of breeders wanting to off load a few before the weather closes in and hay has to be fed.
 
I think I would pay up to £700-800 unless the parents had done anything significant

As the owner of a sweet itch pony I would be asking questions about that fluff at the top of the tail, its seems to be more pronounced now than the earlier pic and I'd wonder if the tail has been rubbed - could be nothing to worry about of course!
 
Crugeran Celt said:
I have a 20 year old home bred mare out of a WelshDXArabXTB mare to a TB stallion and she is en exceptionally beautiful horse but is very temperamental. She has had hoof problems over the last 10 years and was retired due to this before she really proved herself useful so has been a field ornament for a long time but I would never part with her.
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I, too, had a TBxWelshD who spent most of her life as a field ornament. She had a severe cereal/sugar intolerance which took a long time to diagnose and even when we had, it was nigh on impossible to stop passersby feeding her rubbish. She should have been a pretty successful WH, although she was bay roan, which wasn't fashionable at the time, so maybe not. Her behaviour was extremely unpredictable but when 'normal' she was a lovely ride, we broke her to side-saddle as well, which she really took to. She was very affectionate all her life but she then got arthritis as she got older. She lived to be 24.
 
Thanks all :)
How her head/neck is set did worry me bu was unsure whether it was because she's going through a fugly stage.

Breeder is asking £1,000 including delivery (200 miles, so 400 mile round trip) so about what right?
 
There's nothing there that would worry me. She's a yearling and some don't develop as others do especially if they are not fed balancers I've found. I breed WBs so I'm used to seeing mini-mum type yearlings who are more compact and in proportion and much chunkier, with good topline and solid neck sets, compared to this youngster but there's nothing jumping out at me that looks horrific or concerning on this yearling. Price sounds fine to me.

Out of interest, what worries you about her head/neck set?
 
Pearlsasinger said:
I, too, had a TBxWelshD who spent most of her life as a field ornament. She had a severe cereal/sugar intolerance which took a long time to diagnose and even when we had, it was nigh on impossible to stop passersby feeding her rubbish. She should have been a pretty successful WH, although she was bay roan, which wasn't fashionable at the time, so maybe not. Her behaviour was extremely unpredictable but when 'normal' she was a lovely ride, we broke her to side-saddle as well, which she really took to. She was very affectionate all her life but she then got arthritis as she got older. She lived to be 24.[/QUO

It is a lovely cross when things go right, my mare is stunning even if I say so myself. She is black and everyone who knows her remark on her looks but she has had major foot problems and it became easier to keep her as a field ornament whereby she is happy and pain free than to persevere with her. She is 20 now and it is so annoying seeing her galloping around the field and I know the moment I take her out she will become lame. Many people have suggested I breed from her but the vet advised that her problems may be hereditary so there was little point going down that route. Mine has unpredictable behavious also, 99% of the time she is fantastic but when she has a strop she is down right dangerous although she has really mellowed in her old age.:)
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Always-Riding said:
Thanks all :)
How her head/neck is set did worry me bu was unsure whether it was because she's going through a fugly stage.

Breeder is asking £1,000 including delivery (200 miles, so 400 mile round trip) so about what right?
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For comparison, here are pics of my homebred, two of him as a yearling with a month in between, before and after fugly!



Then one of him at three. Nothing fugley there!

I breed this cross, and all mine are very well adjusted and intelligent sorts that turn their hooves to anything. Re price, I think thats fair. You've got a unusual colour and whats looks to be a nice sort. I'm not sure about it making 16.1hh though.
 
I think she looks very nice for a yearling (especially in the 2nd photo), and a very attractive colour as a bonus. I'd pay that for a nicely bred, well put together animal like her. I'd love to see her in a couple of years I bet she'll be stunning. Any pictures of her dam?

ETA - @ cundlegreen - he's a beaut :)
 
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