Chasing For Unpaid Livery

Me too, people like that are a worry for everyone.
Had one at our yard for a while, such a straight up liar, used to say she "rode" every day at 5am, I believed her at first but after a while it was clear that it wasn't true, we started to just rug/unrug with our horses. He was losing weight so I fed him with my horses, cared for him when he was injured, he was a lovely horse, I worry about what happened to him having such a selfish, weak, lazy liar in charge of him
 
Hi Everyone

the latest on the situation is that the original letters were both delivered as confirmed by Royal Mail special delivery track & trace on 17th September, by Friday last week I had still not had a reply so I called her at work and she claimed not to have received the letters! I am currently waiting for Royal Mail to upload the signatures so I can catch her out! I advised that the letter basically said we still have not had her money and that we want her to leave the yard by Sat 28th Sept, to this she replied ' OK no problem'! I asked what has been going on and she claims her car is still brocken, I told her each day we look after him she is acruing extra charges to which she responded 'you are still doing that' I told her we need the money ASAP and I need to know when she will be collecting the pony. At the end of the call she had the cheek to say she is not happy with how we have behaved!
By yesterday I had still not had a call and called her at work but she was not in so I sent another letter and statement detailing charges to date, again sent special delivery. Royal Mail have confirmed today it has been delivered!

I called her today at work and again she denies ever receiving any of our letters. Apparently she is going to come and collect the pony on saturday and transfer the money so its in our account by then! I told her if we dont have the money the pony wont be going anywhere. Apparently she is going to the yard tonight and Thursday to muck out and get his stable all ready and as all our gates are now paddlocked and tack room combination changed, even the pony is locked in his field I told her she would have to hope over the gate if she needs to get in. Amazingly she gave me her work email so I have emailed her copies of all our letters and an up to date statement detailing charges for the remainder of the week. We have told her we will only accept Cash! I told her she needs to call me to let me know when she will be over on Saturday as we need to be there to release him and she laughed, very weird behaviour!

Will let you all know what happens next, and im not holding my breath that she appears tonight!
 
I was wondering how you had got on,

Good luck and hope it all goes well and you get your money though sadly wouldn't be surprised though if you wake up one morning and padlocks are cut and pony gone !! :(
 
What a nightmare! hope you get your cash.

However, feeling for the poor horse for having her as an owner. I can only assume, she hops from yard to yard trying to pull the same scam.

Chin up and stick to your guns :)
 
Yeah, just adding to your Support Club basically.

What a nightmare livery........ and lying little b!tch to boot. But lets hope she DOES take her pony and goes when she's supposed to; plus coughs up the cash.

Poor pony, can't help feeling sorry for it with such a useless owner; bet its a real darling too and deserves better.
 
Sorry to hear your plight, god it's sounds stressful! I feel sorry for the pony. Most of us have tight times financially, I've seen me counting coins for food, but my livery had never been a day late. Priorities: horse comes first, I chose to be responsible for a horse, and that is what I will be. I hope you get your money and I hope you tell/warn other livery yards. Maybe then, she will have to sell, and maybe the poor pony will have a steady consistent home and not having to move into new yards/herds. X
 
OP would you mind posting a rough geographical area of where you are ( only north, south if you prefer) so that those who take liveries on this forum can be on the lookout for this person if they appear as I presume she will be looking for another yard now?
 
You will be amazed to hear she turned up tonight to much him out! She confirmed receipt if my email but apparently couldn't open the attachments despite them being standard word documents! She then went in to say we have an incorrect home address for her, hmmm funny she mentioned that as she claims not to have revived the letters & couldn't open the emailed versions so how dies she know I have the wrong address!!! I was going to ask if she wanted to get the pony in & would have unlocked the gate for her but she just my led out then went! Apparently she's bringing cash on Saturday so we shall see.

We are based in surrey on West Sussex boarders so other yard owners please beware! I wouldn't wish all the hassle & stress on anyone!
 
I would print out everything you sent to her via email and post, list it on a separate piece of paper with room for her to sign for it, when she arrives tomorrow hand over the documents and ask her to sign for receipt, I'd also voice record the conversation. On Saturday I would lock up saddle, rugs, basically all tack and goods other than the horse, and refuse her access to them until the goods are paid for, if she doesn't turn up I'd make steps to take a lien on the horse, its a bit of a process but I'd personally do it if she pushes it further than Saturday.
 
Well tomorrow is D Day. I wonder if she will turn up to collect the pony and if she will have the money??!! Im not holding out on anything at all!
 
good luck with getting your money! We had a field rented to some people on team GB and they were a nightmare for looking after their horses and paying their debts. I had to threaten to inform their sponsors and start small claims action before they paid up. The field rent was only £25 a week!!!!! Dont back down!
 
She came and mucked him out on Wednesday evening and is meant to be doing the same today, she is also meant to be letting me know what time she is coming tomorrow!

Im surprised at team GB I would have thought they would be the last people you would expect that behaviour from!
 
Have you warned the other liveries what's happening? You don't want them giving her access without your permisson if she turns up unexpectedly.
 
There are loads of people on Team GB in all the different disciplines. If an eventer fails to pay their livery it is not BE fault and it does not mean that all eventers are bad payers.

Likewise if someone who has, at some stage of their life, ridden for Team GB runs up debts it is NOT the fault of Team GB. Team GB does not pay livery bills for anyone they are merely the body that selects and organises teams to represent the country. Team GB does not own any horses so as a body they cannot be liable for any livery or any responsibilty for the standard of care except when the horses are actually away competing for the team at an Official competition.

Please do not run down our National Squad - they do us proud.
 
I don't think the op was running down our team, it's just that you would expect them to be on top of things, especially something like livery. I find that they werent quite shocking, actually, I always thought the horses would be very pampered, the thought that they giv so much and don't even have thei r rent paid on time pretty grim. What is up with people who aren't respponsible? I will never give a livery, not becaueof the chasing brass, just because I couldn't be amicable with sonmeone who treat their horse like that. (sorry for editing, phone app wont let me delete the wrongs).
 
There are loads of people on Team GB in all the different disciplines. If an eventer fails to pay their livery it is not BE fault and it does not mean that all eventers are bad payers.

Likewise if someone who has, at some stage of their life, ridden for Team GB runs up debts it is NOT the fault of Team GB. Team GB does not pay livery bills for anyone they are merely the body that selects and organises teams to represent the country. Team GB does not own any horses so as a body they cannot be liable for any livery or any responsibilty for the standard of care except when the horses are actually away competing for the team at an Official competition.

Please do not run down our National Squad - they do us proud.
Who slated team GB? I merely was pointing out that my problems with a non paying livery was someone on a team GB. You never can tell who is going to cause trouble. Incidentally a good payer we had on once was a gypsy.
 
I don't think the op was running down our team, it's just that you would expect them to be on top of things, especially something like livery. I find that they werent quite shocking, actually, I always thought the horses would be very pampered, the thought that they giv so much and don't even have thei r rent paid on time pretty grim. What is up with people who aren't respponsible? I will never give a livery, not becaueof the chasing brass, just because I couldn't be amicable with sonmeone who treat their horse like that. (sorry for editing, phone app wont let me delete the wrongs).
The horses on our field werent team horses. Just old or useless ones that they had no interest in. They ended up exchanging one for a hay debt with a local farmer. We had so many problems with them, rspca out all the time, horses breaking fences due to hunger, never paying rent.
 
Op, you are very close to me. If you don't mind, could you pm me a name, doesn't have to be the whole name, as we often get people looking here and at my last yard. My last yard manager is just the type to fall for a poor little chucked out livery and I know she's advertising a space.
 
Hi everyone you will be pleased to know she came down last night with the full amount in cash & has been to collect him this morning as I passed he coming down the lane in a horse box!

We are so relived she has gone it's been so stressful the last few weeks. At lady we can relax & enjoy going down the yard.

Thank you to everyone for all you advice & comments.
 
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