Chatsworth air ambulance visit

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It's a sight that nobody wants to see at a competition but does anyone know the full story?

From what I picked up a spectator was on the course and got hit but not sure whether it was by a horse or something else?

Hope everyone involved was ok but was obviously very serious with police everywhere and somebody being air lifted out.
 
its a sight no one wants to see anywhere. I had the air ambulance out to my daughter yesterday after her horse reared and come over backwards on top of her and straight in to a fence. As a mum Ive never been so scared in my life. Thankfully my daughter got away with just a fractured collar bone and some bruising.
 
I was involved, but obviously cannot discuss details on a public forum. However no horse or horse rider was involved. Speculation really doesn't help anyone.
 
I was nearby when it happened. I didn't see it happen but someone told me that one of the motorbikes had fallen off an old drop fence. Far as I know no one else involved. However I am not official, didn't see if first hand so may be wrong. Please don't sue me. Hope the injured person is ok.
 
This must have happened just after I left. Saw quite a few fallers but thankfully all horses and riders walked away fine. Fingers crossed everyone was ok
 
Stopthecavalry - there were quite a few pretty bad falls! I was watching the poor girl who's horse fell at the sunken road and she got taken away in an ambulance. I didn't catch her name but hope her and all fallers today are ok. The horse got up pretty quick and seemed ok thankfully.
 
sally87 said:
I was nearby when it happened. I didn't see it happen but someone told me that one of the motorbikes had fallen off an old drop fence. Far as I know no one else involved. However I am not official, didn't see if first hand so may be wrong. Please don't sue me. Hope the injured person is ok.
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We had commented twice during the day on the trail bike riders tear-arsing around the course and why it needed 3 of them to collect score sheets.

Why would you think that someone would sue you?
 
Just posted in competition and training about this. We returned to our car having watched the show jumping and the lady parked next to us was watching the drama with the air ambulance through binoculars. I don't think she was interested in helicopters.
 
I thought the bikes were a little OTT. What were they there for?

Hope everything was OK with everyone who fell. I saw a couple of falls but they all got up and walked off. x
 
tescoexpress said:
We had commented twice during the day on the trail bike riders tear-arsing around the course and why it needed 3 of them to collect score sheets.
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The competitors don't wish to wait for results but until the scorers have seen and checked the score sheets they cannot be finalised. When there are only two bikes in order to satisfy the demand they are constantly on the go and need to be travelling fast between each fence but still tend to fall behind. Three bikes takes the pressure off slightly. It's certainly nothing like a gentle drive round the countryside:eek:
 
Karlyht- it felt every time I arrived back at the big logs before the first water someone was falling off although thankfully as I say no one seemed particularly hurt and all horses and riders walked away. There was a semi amusing moment (or as funny as someone falling off could be) where a lady had fallen off her horse took off she lept up to chase after him, the steward at the jump chasing after her to make sure she was ok, the vet following them to check the horse and the ambulance chasing after all of them, it was like a carry on film! Seemed to be a couple of hairy moments once it started to drizzle and the ground got a little slippyer, although froma spectators point if view they seemed to be trying really hard putting sand down etc to keep the going good
 
jemima*askin said:
The competitors don't wish to wait for results but until the scorers have seen and checked the score sheets they cannot be finalised. When there are only two bikes in order to satisfy the demand they are constantly on the go and need to be travelling fast between each fence but still tend to fall behind. Three bikes takes the pressure off slightly. It's certainly nothing like a gentle drive round the countryside:eek:
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Every time I saw them all 3 were together and 1 picked the sheet up whilst the others waited. Unless they have switched to using wax or stone tablets since I last fence judged, it only needed 1 to do the job. I am an industrial engineer and work study is my bread and butter. That activity needs 1 motorcyclist, not 3.
 
Why the sudden theme of dissing score-collecting bikers?

I fence-judge at BE events, I admit not at Chatsworth as it's too far from me, but I've always found them friendly, helpful and considerate of the competitors. They provide a valuable service and they hopefully enjoy the chance to ride off-road on land not normally available to them as a benefit.

Can we please be nice?
 
tescoexpress said:
Every time I saw them all 3 were together and 1 picked the sheet up whilst the others waited. Unless they have switched to using wax or stone tablets since I last fence judged, it only needed 1 to do the job. I am an industrial engineer and work study is my bread and butter. That activity needs 1 motorcyclist, not 3.
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Ah the old time and motion:) Certainly when we used to do it we would have travelled as a unit only once, before the course was open, to see where the course went. After that we tended to set off eight horses apart or to divide the course into two halves and ride round continuously.

I agree that I can see no good reason to travel en masse. We;d never have got away with that - far too slow on the score collecting!
 
Just seen this on another thread.

kerilli
it wasn't a horse or rider.
it was one of the guys (i am guessing) on a scrambling bike who was collecting FJ scorecards. he unwittingly rode over a hump and must have driven off the top of an old xc fence, a big step, and crashed down it. i didn't see it happen and have no idea how long he was there before being found. it didn't look good though.
sincerely hope they managed to save him.
 
Magnetic Sparrow said:
Why the sudden theme of dissing score-collecting bikers?

I fence-judge at BE events, I admit not at Chatsworth as it's too far from me, but I've always found them friendly, helpful and considerate of the competitors. They provide a valuable service and they hopefully enjoy the chance to ride off-road on land not normally available to them as a benefit.

Can we please be nice?
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I'm not not being nice! Heavens, I've spent far too many hours freezing my bits off or getting burned to a sweaty frazzle whilst being shaken to pieces only to get flak from the scorers for being too slow with the scores to want to do down the job they do, I was merely trying to explain it!
 
Perhaps I'm being over sensitive (although I don't think you were not not not being nice). It's just I thought there was the risk of an outbreak of posts having a go at scoresheet-collecting bikers when one of their number is at best seriously injured at the moment.

No offence meant.
 
Ah the first time I went to Chatsworth the score collectors were kids from the various local PC branches on their ponies (in tweeds etc). It looked such fun, I aspired to be one of them more than I aspired to compete there I think.......
 
Magnetic Sparrow said:
Perhaps I'm being over sensitive (although I don't think you were not not not being nice). It's just I thought there was the risk of an outbreak of posts having a go at scoresheet-collecting bikers when one of their number is at best seriously injured at the moment.

No offence meant.
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I echo this.
It really did not look good.
Must say I was really really shocked by the tannoy silence on the issue, it would have been good if they'd just said that no horse or rider was involved, and as far as I could hear they did not mention it at all... :( :( :(
 
kerilli said:
I echo this.
It really did not look good.
Must say I was really really shocked by the tannoy silence on the issue, it would have been good if they'd just said that no horse or rider was involved, and as far as I could hear they did not mention it at all... :( :( :(
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I knew nothing about it and was there all day. I hope he is OK. Sounds awful.
 
The reason they don't discuss/announce it on the tannoy is because

1) Medical confidentiality - they are not allowed
2) It isn't a reality tv show - it is a real life accident/injury/tragedy
3) If they say who it is - whoever - rider/ crowd member/official/ etc etc, then anyone who knows anyone there in that capacity is on their mobile phoning them/going there to see what has happened and so on. The medics/ambulances/heli-med crew all use and rely on mobiles and airwaves to communicate - the sudden surge in mobile use makes it very hard and slows things down. Trying to get the right docs there, the crowd away for the helicopter to land - ditto the horses, and still try to work on the poor poor man involved, while people are rushing for a better position so they can take a pic/video on their phone, is not a nice experience.

I hope that those of you who have commented negatively on the bikers remember that some of them read this forum, and will be reading this today - after what happened.
 
saalsk said:
The reason they don't discuss/announce it on the tannoy is because

1) Medical confidentiality - they are not allowed
2) It isn't a reality tv show - it is a real life accident/injury/tragedy
3) If they say who it is - whoever - rider/ crowd member/official/ etc etc, then anyone who knows anyone there in that capacity is on their mobile phoning them/going there to see what has happened and so on. The medics/ambulances/heli-med crew all use and rely on mobiles and airwaves to communicate - the sudden surge in mobile use makes it very hard and slows things down. Trying to get the right docs there, the crowd away for the helicopter to land - ditto the horses, and still try to work on the poor poor man involved, while people are rushing for a better position so they can take a pic/video on their phone, is not a nice experience.

I hope that those of you who have commented negatively on the bikers remember that some of them read this forum, and will be reading this today - after what happened.
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Very well said. Thank you.
 
If the bikers are reading this, they will see that all who have commented are concerned that they are okay.
I sincerely hope they are too.
 
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