Cheeky/ridiculous posts you see on Facebook.

Not a facebook but an advert site one.
Advert for a very large sport type who sounds lethal. Has aggression issues with food in and out the stable, can't take a wheelbarrow in the field because he'll charge you. Stressy, dominant, bites, needs restarting, bolts when mounted and ridden, needs sedating for any farrier, vet or dentist, stressed in stable and cannot be the last horse out and turns out alone. Companion or project for close to 2k
Sounds like a project for the apprentice knackerman more like...
 
Here’s a hopeful one

looking for sharer for non ridden “quirky” pony 3 days a week

Duties Include:

* Turning out & bringing in
* Mucking out (straw bed)
* Refilling haynets & water
* Making breakfast feeds
* Grooming
* General yard tidying
* Poo picking the paddock once per week

Contribution: To be discussed.
I'll do that - for £25 per hour...!!
 
A genuine question- how are rider weights vs horse carrying calculated?
The suggested is rider+tack should be no more than 15% horse's "Ideal" body weight.

So not, just rider weight or horse's "actual" weight

Eg divas Ideal weight is roughly 460* so 15% of that would be 69
Two Stone/14-15kg of which is probably saddle, riding helmet etc so rider could be no more than 54kg

I think we forget anatomically horses are actually appallingly designed for carrying weight - but of course, nature did not actually design them to carry weight.

* ish. I have never weighbridged her tho I want to ....
 
The suggested is rider+tack should be no more than 15% horse's "Ideal" body weight.

So not, just rider weight or horse's "actual" weight

Eg divas Ideal weight is roughly 460* so 15% of that would be 69
Two Stone/14-15kg of which is probably saddle, riding helmet etc so rider could be no more than 54kg

I think we forget anatomically horses are actually appallingly designed for carrying weight - but of course, nature did not actually design them to carry weight.

* ish. I have never weighbridged her tho I want to ....

Theoretically , you should add the excess weight the horse is carry to the rider and tack weight.

So f the horse is 500kg, but is 50 kg over wieght, and the rider weighs 60 kg, and the tack and riders boots and hat and coat etc weighs another 20kg, the horse is carrying 130kg.

The ideal weight of the horse is 450kg, so now you have 450*15%=67kg, when in fact it is carrying 130kg.
 
Theoretically , you should add the excess weight the horse is carry to the rider and tack weight.

So f the horse is 500kg, but is 50 kg over wieght, and the rider weighs 60 kg, and the tack and riders boots and hat and coat etc weighs another 20kg, the horse is carrying 130kg.

The ideal weight of the horse is 450kg, so now you have 450*15%=67kg, when in fact it is carrying 130kg.
Very Good point & one id forgotten!! You are completely correct and thank you for adding this
 
Theoretically , you should add the excess weight the horse is carry to the rider and tack weight.

So f the horse is 500kg, but is 50 kg over wieght, and the rider weighs 60 kg, and the tack and riders boots and hat and coat etc weighs another 20kg, the horse is carrying 130kg.

The ideal weight of the horse is 450kg, so now you have 450*15%=67kg, when in fact it is carrying 130kg.
I’m not advocating for this as a way to increase the weight limit (or for having overweight horses) but - is it theoretically correct in this calculation to add the additional horse weight to the rider +tack weight? That extra horse weight is differently distributed across the body rather than centred on the back. I’m sure there should be a consideration of it somehow but perhaps not just added on?
 
I’m not advocating for this as a way to increase the weight limit (or for having overweight horses) but - is it theoretically correct in this calculation to add the additional horse weight to the rider +tack weight? That extra horse weight is differently distributed across the body rather than centred on the back. I’m sure there should be a consideration of it somehow but perhaps not just added on?

Depends what the extra weight is. A well muscled horse would, in bio mechanical terms, have an increased carrying capacity. A fat one would have a reduced carrying capacity.

The research was very limited and needs further more detailed studies to give a true picture. It would be amazing if someone were to do/fund such studies.
 
The suggested is rider+tack should be no more than 15% horse's "Ideal" body weight.

So not, just rider weight or horse's "actual" weight

Eg divas Ideal weight is roughly 460* so 15% of that would be 69
Two Stone/14-15kg of which is probably saddle, riding helmet etc so rider could be no more than 54kg

I think we forget anatomically horses are actually appallingly designed for carrying weight - but of course, nature did not actually design them to carry weight.

* ish. I have never weighbridged her tho I want to ....

Theres no way she weighs as little as that!
 
Pic not clear but is it a Wilson snaffle? More often used for driving than riding.

Ahh yes potentially having just googled it - doesn't look quite the same but close, the advert did have the rider on board in pjamas and bailing twine for some tack so it wouldn't be a stretch. What does this bit do that's different from a snaffle?
 
A gushing fan post from local RDA group showing their RDA mascot alongside one of the demo riders at the recent Pony Magazine Live day at a local venue.

What a great moment in time for the young fans to aspire to 🙄.

Yeah, just waiting for the usual comments “just a moment in time, not truly representative of this combination, blah blah”.

B0ll0x. I’ve got no idea who the rider is, but this is typical of modern dressage riding, let’s just yank on the mouth to get submission. I despair, and I’m a former keen dressage rider.

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Depends what the extra weight is. A well muscled horse would, in bio mechanical terms, have an increased carrying capacity. A fat one would have a reduced carrying capacity.

The research was very limited and needs further more detailed studies to give a true picture. It would be amazing if someone were to do/fund such studies.
This is interesting- it’s specifically about Icelandic horses but it goes into some detail on the ideas of the 20% rule and other things and they discuss scientific findings relating to how much a horse can carry.
 
Icelandics are weirdly conformed ponies with sloping croups, and although they are often expected to carry large lumps of adults it doesn’t mean that doing so doesn’t damage them.
They also, like the traditional Mongolian horses who are similarly small and hardy and expected to carry grown men, typically live a very different lifestyle to a leisure horse. They're less likely to be jumped, ridden in a "frame", doing circles on a surface etc. Carrying a big man over varied terrain would be tiring of course but a different kind of strain. Also less likely to be in a stable 16 hours a day.

The 20% rule isn't made for nuance!
A gushing fan post from local RDA group showing their RDA mascot alongside one of the demo riders at the recent Pony Magazine Live day at a local venue.

What a great moment in time for the young fans to aspire to 🙄.

Yeah, just waiting for the usual comments “just a moment in time, not truly representative of this combination, blah blah”.

B0ll0x. I’ve got no idea who the rider is, but this is typical of modern dressage riding, let’s just yank on the mouth to get submission. I despair, and I’m a former keen dressage rider.

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How many people will look at this and see absolutely nothing wrong with it.
 
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