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Starsy

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Oh and she wasn't 'thin' she was completely emaciated, and her field companion was poor. If you had seen the state of her, then you would have been as appalled as we were. However, I have no interest in arguing with you, thank you, so perhaps you could use the 'ignore' button and I shall do the same.
 

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Things aren't always black and white, and although I was initially upset that the mare was PTS, I am not a vet, and the vet obviously thought that's what needed to happen.

But you cannot ignore a horse to the point of emaciation, then leave them out unrugged with no field shelter or means of keeping warm at night, feed them once a day (or so we were told), and not get the vet (they hadn't). That to me is just plain wrong.
 

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We all know the owner, and did approach them first, he was on holiday, but we spoke to his relatives, and I cannot share their opinions with you as it is not my place to do so.

Perhaps you think we should have just left the mare in the field to die in the cold?

As you were not there, then you know less than I do. Call it neglect, call it ignorance, neglect is still neglect whether it is intentional or through lack of knowledge but the best of intentions. I am not moaning about the vets decision or the sad death of the mare, but the fact that the RSPCA can do nothing to punish the owner, who people have tried to tell, but is above it all.

I think your tone is unecessarily unpleasant, are you having a bad day? To say 'keep away from my land' seems rather dramatic. I have no wish to visit the 'bottom of your well' so please concern yourself no further.

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First of all young lady-learn to write in English-it does help the reader of your post. Secondly, try not to be so self righteous. Im sure that if there were grounds to prosecute the owner then the legal side would have been put in motion. It seems to me that you have a personal grudge with the owner and that the mare was used as a reason to damage him in some way. I have liveries who are old and have physical problems and I would not thank you for calling out the authorities before taliking to me-my cousin/aunt/brother in law do not count and could not give you any explaination as to why a horse is thin/lame etc. Okay, is this what you want to hear? "Wow , you were wonderful, the owner is a git and the world sucks"
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But you cannot ignore a horse to the point of emaciation, then leave them out unrugged with no field shelter or means of keeping warm at night, feed them once a day (or so we were told), and not get the vet (they hadn't).
So you dont really have any hard facts, just 'what youd been told'. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. M.
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I have no grudge against the owner, who I have had no personal dealings with. I am sorry you are so hostile, and I have no interest at all in arguing with you. It seems I have hit some sort of nerve with you regarding a past experience of yours.

Happy to accept tips on how to improve my english though and I enjoyed being called a 'young lady', thanks!
 

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Also, I am not prepared to share every detail on a public forum, but if you would like all the facts, as you seem to so infuriated by the whole thing, then I am willing to share them with you privately.
 

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for someone who doesnt want to argue, you keep on bouncing back
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. I havent had any past experiences to prejudice my reply to your post/s, I am convinced that you went 'for the throat' without asking or informing yourself as to why etc. Just out of curiosity, what were you doing snooping about in the back fields? Looking for dirt? M.
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Mairi, i can see your point, in that there could be any number of reasons for an animal to be in poor condition. But if the mare was in such an emaciated state as Starsy has described (and on an open forum, all we ever have is someone's word) then surely she should have been put out of her misery sooner? Emaciation does not happen over night, and it is the responsibility of the owner to get her seen to by a vet if there is a problem, which there clearly was. In this case once seen by a vet the mare was deemed in such a poor state as to be destroyed, which to me says that she had been left to suffer too much for too long.

IMO this is neglect, whether there is a medical reason for her illness or not. She was left to suffer.

Every time a HHO members horse is declared to be in such a state, people are encouraging to get the vet out, and if no improvement or quality of life, to PTS. I think 99% of people on here support and encourage that (including you), and if this was a person posting about their own horse and these actions or lack of, they would be being ripped to shreds.

I have seen pictures of what wonderful improvements you have made to the life of that old pally, and i understand where you are coming from in regards to people reporting when they do not know. But he improved rather than declined in health, and i doubt you would have let any equine in your care suffer in the way that this mare sounds to have.
 

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Ditto somethingorother, if someone saw my boy at the minute they would probably report me, although he is showing a small imporvement.

However in regards to the RSPCA, any charity that can donate £1million to a political party and cannot give its local branches any money, do not have my backing, when people donate money to them, excatly where does the money go.
 
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