Choke warning learn from my mistakes.

What an awful experience for you and Armas :-(

Very confused by the hose thing, a hose with water pressure, crazy! You were just doing as you were told in desperation. I know veterinary standards can be surprisingly different in France.

Do they know what the blood in his wee was?

All my healing thoughts for Armas!xx
 
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MiJodsR2BlinkinTite said:
Can't believe what the fr!ggin' vet advised you to do!!!:(. I'd be changing vets PDQ.

Think you should explore the possibility of financial redress for your fees incurred as a result of following this misguided and possibly lethal advice.

Poor you, poor horse. Hope all goes well for you both.
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I cant be sure that the fluid in his lungs was from the hose, as when horses have choke mucus can also end up in the lungs.

mandwhy said:
What an awful experience for you and Armas :-(

Very confused by the hose thing, a hose with water pressure, crazy! You were just doing as you were told in desperation. I know veterinary standards can be surprisingly different in France.

Do they know what the blood in his wee was?

All my healing thoughts for Armas!xx
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The blood was a side affect from his trembling however I cannot find any reference to that on google. I am not knocking the vet when he attended. But I am concerned by the advice given on the phone was negligent. I spoke to a UK based vet who is a friend. She told me that under no circumstances should a hose be used on a horse.
Thankfully Armas should be ok and make a full recovery.
 
I am truly shocked that the vet gave you the hose advice by phone! Sticking a hose up a horse's nose could have had serious repercussions ie.

Damaged/torn nasal cavity
Water in lungs
Injuries to handler due to horse freaking out!

Absolutely crazy to advise this!

Pleased you are both feeling better now though.

Perhaps posting this in veterinary forum http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=62
you might get some advice from a friendly vet.
 
Out of interest was it an equine vet? At least its a lesson for us all reading the responses.

I just know that sticking tubes down humans there are ways of knowing its in the stomach etc but am wondering about a horse? Aspiration is the risk and aspiration pneumonia is a potential.

Moving on what is the advice for Choke. Its not as if we can do a heimlich on one? Or can we in some way? Whats the procedure in this kind of emergency?
 
Omg how horrific for both of you
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I can't believe the vet thought putting a hose down his throat during an episode of choke was a good idea! Dear god!! I was shocked when i read that!
I've always been told with choke remove all food and water.
I've seen choke twice and it's not nice and quite scary.
Wishing him a speedy recovery and am sorry you had to go through it too :(
 
So Sorry to see this, My mare has choked each time she goes to a new yard (go figure!)
However ive always just left her and kept her calm and been lucky with it.

My friends yearling had the same treatment as your vet recomended last year and went through the same as your boy- however its a bouncy bouncy 2yo now so fingers x he will be fine.

Fingers x for you keep us updated.
 
I am so sorry.

It might not have been the C&C a friends horse a year back got choke one night, he was just on damp hay. Vet was called but he cleared the choke by himself but was still coughing, she listened to his lungs and he had reduced lung sounds so alot of antibiotics and a scope the next day confirmed her suspicion of chest infection, his larynx and the pipe leading down into his lungs (having a dumb moment:o) was thickened with mucus.

She said the chest infection caused the choke as he wasn't breathing properly, coughed and the hay got stuck.


Sending vibes for a quick recovery.
 
indie999 said:
Out of interest was it an equine vet? At least its a lesson for us all reading the responses.

I just know that sticking tubes down humans there are ways of knowing its in the stomach etc but am wondering about a horse? Aspiration is the risk and aspiration pneumonia is a potential.

Moving on what is the advice for Choke. Its not as if we can do a heimlich on one? Or can we in some way? Whats the procedure in this kind of emergency?
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There's also a chance of rupturing the oesophagus by trying to force the material down by using an implement. I think if you can feel the object you can massage externally - but it's an emergency vet job.
 
How very frightening for you, I would have been equally scared and distressed - and what a muppet the locum vet was. Thankfully, it sounds like your lovely horse is recovering well - will keep my fingers crossed that that continues.

Thank you for sharing your story.

P
 
I'd never try to put a tube down a horse myself either, even a short one; but when a vet tells you to do something it's hard not to follow their advice.

When my neighbours horse had choke last summer we were advised by the vet to pour oil down his throat (I wasn't happy doing this either!) and try to massage the obstruction and see if it shifted itself. After a few hours the poor horse was no better and thankfully the vet came out and tubed him.
 
Todays update,
Last night his respiration was elevated and treated. Today he is well and is in one of the vet's paddocks and seems clinically well.
He was scoped and his lungs are clear, however there is some mucous in his trachea and some thing else I did not understand.
I will know later when he can return home.
 
I'm glad he is on the mend!
He is beautiful!

My boy had choke on Saturday, waited 10 mins to see if he could clear it, I've never seen or dealt with choke before, I was getting concerned so called the vet, receptionist said vet was out on another emergency and would call me asap, and as he rang me back Ralph was then clearing it, lots of gunk streaming out of his nose, vet said he would call in half an hour, which he did, and Ralph was fine, ears pricked wanting to come out, so vet didn't bother coming, he said that 9 times out of 10 they clear it themselves, but I wasn't prepared to wait any longer than I did before calling. My friend who is also a EDT came over to see him and said his teeth were quite sharp which could of been a reason for the choke.

Hope armas is back home with you very soon, they are such a worry at times :)
 
Firstly, I am so pleased he is no the mend.

A friend's elderly TB got choke when her mum fed him dry S/B thinking they were cubes. The local vet nearly killed him by tubing him incorrectly.

I avoid dry feed and cubes like the plague. My lot always get wet s/b with chaff and coarse mix.

Recenlty one of my CB mares started mild choke. We gave her 40mls of oil in a syringe which cleared it quickly then got the dentist in to do her teeth.
 
My filly had to have wolf teeth out so no hard feed for 3 days. Gave her a handful of soaked pony cubes but a few outer ones did not pulp. She started retching only a little but it was enough.. She is greedy enough to guzzle. Managed to syringe ( downwards) the goo out of her mouth and massage her thoat. Luckily all fine but felt dreadful. Now on soft and soak and fine!

Glad your boy is recovering.
 
Hi so pleased that he is recovering. My boy had choke a couple of months ago and he had to be tubed. It is very scary to witness and can be life threatening.
My vet says do what you can with most things before a vet arrives, but with choke do nothing and call your vet!
I hope your boy continues to recover well!
 
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