Chris Dyson/Sovereign Horses Ponies

[FieldOrnaments]

sorry what does this mean?

"She who must not be named" although "she" has been named (Lynne Robertson)

 

[New Forests Rock]

I don't see a problem with this. If you go to a dealer's yard it is under their conditions, they control what you see, how the horse is dealt with etc. You have no idea if it is buted. You ride under their conditions and they can omit (carefully avoid) whatever they choose. They you get it home and, as we have seen from some posts on here, 3 days later and it is a dragon breathing lunatic that won't go down the lane and kicks the shit out of people in it's box.

I'm not sure that at a viewing at a dealer's yard you are going to know if you really like the horse, if you like it because it looks nice, you feel sorry for it or for any other reason. Just because you like a horse the first time you see it probably based on it's carefully written description which shows it as being perfect for you it doesn't mean that you are still going to like it after day 5.

Much better to have it home for a week, vet at your leisure with your own vet and ride it alone, in company and whatever else concerns you. Your instructor can ride it and give you a lesson. I think it takes long time as in months to gel with a new horse and it is up to the rider to be the one trying to get on with the horse.


sorry what does this mean?

She Who Must Not Be Named = Lynn Robertson (search on Broadhill Stables) thread for more details.

 

[nutjob]

If you have ever sold a horse or even loaned one out their are people who over estimated their riding skill, treat it as a day trip, and I would never allow the anyone who in not buying the horse to ride it, because I need to know they are competent and usually the friend or family member IME is out to prove how good they are a better rider or know more.
If you are selling as a business if someone screws up your horse, and its is surprising how many people to not ride with tact, you are have a horse that is wary every time someone new gets on it, and then there is a liability risk if someone injures themselves and they want to claim on your insurance.
I have only once let someone take one on trial, through a friend, and wouldn't take the risk again.

I don't really get the relevance of this because of course people who come to try out horses may be poor riders, but if the horse is sent out on a 7 day trial to someone he has never met before this is at least as likely to happen and not only may they be overestimating their ability and / or riding with no tact, but on top of that, any number of such riders could be getting on with whatever tack they have to hand and whatever weight they might be. The horse can also be fed inappropriately, turned out with unsuitable fencing and companions or not turned out at all or any number of undesirable management issues. Also, quite a few are youngsters recently shipped from Ireland. This dealer preferentially chooses to send out horses unseen by the buyers and the buyers ability is completely unknown to him.

Much better to have it home for a week, vet at your leisure with your own vet and ride it alone, in company and whatever else concerns you. Your instructor can ride it and give you a lesson. I think it takes long time as in months to gel with a new horse and it is up to the rider to be the one trying to get on with the horse.

This sounds great in theory, but several horses I viewed could be rejected very quickly. Some were lame, one decked me within 3 seconds, one was tricky for the pro rider, one very thin and lethargic, one with fetlocks with too much movement, one refused to jump a x pole, one the pro wouldn't get on it until it was lunged first. It's already disappointing finding out that the horse is unsuitable after a 3 hour car journey but the cost of transporting multiple unsuitable horses to and from my home and the disruption / infection risk to the existing residents would be far too much for me. At one yard there was a horse looking unwell with a snotty nose, coughing and sneezing, not isolated from the other horses.

I also had problems getting back 2 deposits, one the horse was likely sold to someone else and the dealer just kept my deposit despite a ccj, the next one the horse failed the vet and I started down the mcol process which did result in her coughing up in the end. So based on my own experience I'd never trust a dealer to return my money if the horse was unsuitable. Some reports indicate that Lynn (Broadhill stables) has retained ~£700,000.