Circumstances have changed regrettably and I don't know what to do with my mare.

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Hello all,

I was wondering if I could get some advice that might help aid my decision. I am uncertain whether my mare and I have a future together. I have noticed she is increasingly very temperamental and can be stroppy. It seems to be getting worse recently. Also she has had a rather long season which started before Christmas and has only just finished this week. She has lost most of her manners and has started barging, nipping me and acts aggressive towards other horses. She tries to dominate most of the horses in the field. I bought her with a foal in the summer, she is a standard bred of 11yrs old and was advertised as bombproof, might I add she was cheap so I wasn't expecting her to be well schooled. We visited her a couple of times with her foal and she was good as gold although we didn't get to ride her, which is my mistake I know. The previous owner told me that she hadn't been ridden for two years as she has been used as a broodmare after her racing career. I had all the time in the world for her when I bought her and after the foal was weaned from her we started to do some schooling with her and we discovered she was more green than we expected. I didn't mind this because I had a lot of time to spend on her to work through it. Might I add that we changed yards shortly after the foal was weaned so this might have added to the upset. We had her tack fitted and have had her teeth seen to by a vet. Things were progressing in the school although I hadn't taken her out hacking at this stage.

Circumstances changed a few months later I had started my full time job and with twins this was a bit of a juggle to try and fit working my mare so I went down the route of part loaning her to an Equine student, which was great at first. She'd take her out hacking with other horses at least once a week and do some schooling on her which was great. We both discovered that she is quite spooky and will not hack out alone. Now her part loaner has other commitments and cannot spend as much time with her since Christmas, which is a shame. The times when I have ridden her recently, I feel like I have an electric bum and generally don't feel safe on her as she tries to bronc with me on her in the school. Last time I took her out on the road with a friend I felt tension was building up in her like she wanted to race back to the yard. I know if I didn't work as much I'd put in the extra time with her, to try and help her and myself. I am debating whether to get some one from the uni to come and school her a few times a week and hope this sorts things out or whether I should cut my losses and sell her and spend more on buying a happy hacker that I can hack out on weekends and some evenings in the summer. She has lots of potential but she needs more time put in to her. What would you do if you were in this situation? I do adore her but I don't think she adores me. I would hate to sell her but I want to do what's best by her.
 
There is a long list of things which might cause this kind of problem. Can I assume you have done the usual 'saddle still fits, horse sound with no apparent back problems etc' checks?

Feeding can cause some behaviour issues - if she's working less is she getting less hard feed? Too much haylage causes my gelding to go loopy for example, I have to be very careful with that.

My first instinct reading your post is that the mare is getting a lot less exercise and it might be that causing her to get overexcited and silly. Lunging, free-schooling or a horsewalker if you are lucky enough to have access, might start to address that.

However it could be that I'm completely wrong!
 
I would speak to your vet. In your first paragraph you could have been explaining my mare a year ago. she was constantly in season and horrible to be around or ride. we had her scanned it was decided to try Regumate. Within a month she turned into a completely different horse. She was uncomfortable before and I think this was causing her issues. I could ride and actually put my leg on - I could be near her without being barged at - I could take her away from her field mate - the list goes on. I had tried (and spent a fortune) on every available 'mare' product on the market so for me the Regumate was worth trying and I was reluctant at first until vet explained that her seasons may not come right on their own. she is now a lovely little horse and I am glad I spoke to the vet.
 
I think I will have a chat with my vet like you suggested because I didn't think mares go in to season in the winter, I thought it was more a summer thing. Yep you're right she's getting a lot less exercise now. My part loaner thinks she needs to be turned out full time and it's not a case of working but I do think more time needs to be spent with her.

I will look in to getting her back checked again because we went through four saddles to get one that fits back in the autumn and to be fair she did have a foal belly that took a while to shift. What is Regumate? Is it something you put in their feed?

She is stabled from 8pm - 7am and has two haynets of haylage (livery supplies this) has a feed of half a scoop of pony nuts and 2 handfuls of chaf to bring her in with, with a bit of general supplement added. Then in the morning she is turned out on 5 acres with a gelding who keeps his distance from her.
 
Regumate is a hormone suppressor and should not in my opinion be used lightly but, if the horse has a geniune reason for the need of it and all other natural supplements have failed then it does its job well. My vet said no natural substance would have had a great affect on my horse and for me its worked well. I do think some people use it too readily and without proper investigation into the problem but again thats just my opinion. all I am saying if that it is your mares problem there is something that will make her happy and comfy. Its expensive I pay £11 for a prescription and get off internet for £110 for a litre but my mare is down to 8 ml a day (in her evening feed) and so it lasts a few months and because of the results it has given me its priceless.

I think also the weather has been quite mild which can be a contributor to messing up their seasons i suppose and this was originally given as an excuse for my mare until she went for a few months continually seasoning with about 3 good days every 2 weeks.

Obviously like you say its good to check all other factors as well. I spent a fortune on physio, saddle fitters, bits, lessons - trying every avenue to explain her behaviour and it was so nice to have my nice horsey back. good luck with it - diagnosis of problems is always a minefield :)
 
I'm afraid I can't offer any advice, but my mare fits the exact description that you gave above, and she is becoming increasingly moodier and aggressive towards other horses whilst out riding, so I'll be very interested to follow this thread!
 
I would have her thoroughly checked out by horsey vet and chiro to ensure she hasn't got back problems - a distinct possibility if she has been raced and bred from.

Regumate worked wonders for my friend's "stroppy" mare. The problem was caused by a small growth on one of her ovaries which could be removed by surgery (are you insured?). She opted to breed from her mare as it was suggested this could solve the problem.

If you are sure it isn't pain related from other problems you could talk to your vet about having a marble fitted. This is an inexpensive and effective way of suppressing seasons.
 
I have a mare htat was having dreadfull seasons to the degree that the coat was coming off down the insides of her legs because of the constant fluids. She was very stressed when we got her and underweight. We were at the point of PTS or marbling as she was a nightmare to handle. We put her on regumate and she only had one course which just helped put her system right and she hasnt needed anything since (2 yrs). Her seasons are manageable and altho can pull the best bitch faces at other horses around food she is now reliable. She used to be very tender behind the saddle as her ovaries must have been going haywire. She is so different now good luck
 
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