Clever ppl on collie breeding/gene colour ( long ish)

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I'm looking for some clever person or ppl to help me, I'm trying to work out the colour of my collie is ( sounds strange right), not two ppl can decide what she is, and this has gone on for about 3 yrs..
She is a 'sable colour' a bright burnt orange colour with no shading in coat, she had no dark hairs mixed in fur or on tips the only black is just on her ears, that you need to seach for.
I thought prehaps clear sable, but can't as her parents aren't sable in colour her mother is black & white, grand mother same while dad was a blue.
So again I thought sable Merle ( as dad blue so guessing with Merle gene and passed it on).. But from gene pictures on Internet a Merle with black & white cants produce a sable.. So I'm think tri factored sable, no idea what it is but must fit right?.. Nope as she has no shading/patches on body.
So what is she??
 
Forget to mention even stranger as she a med length hair border collie, think of a rough collie colour on a border collie.
 
A picture would probably help :p

In my own breed there are masking colours, a dog which is visually white can still be genetically a sable/agouti and can still produce this colour when mated to a non-white GSD.

Either that or someone jumped the fence, as they say!!
 
What do you mean by "sable colour" as it sounds like you are using sable (which is a shading pattern) to describe orange which is a totally different colour?

You can get red border collies in all shades liver, tan, orange & fawn.
A photo would help but you could have a clear red or a minimally expressed sable.

Rough collies have a different coat texture to borders but long coated borders are not unusual.
 
I know very little about genes for collie colours but I do know that with farm collies unless they are black and white you can get a variety of colours from the same litter. My first collie was red and white and when I went to see her the farm had 2 litters who had got mixed up and were all together. The pups were all different colours, mostly grey and white, some reds and some black and white. Is your collie a working strain ?
 
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