lubuzz
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Anyone send their clippers off for sharpening?
If so please recommend me a good company
If so please recommend me a good company
Clipper Sharpening- recommend me please :)
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scarymare
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I used clippersharp in the past and they were good.
AFlapjack
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I have used Shear Ease two years running and had no problems.
SilkySullivan
Member
I use Peasridge and would highly recommend them.
Coop
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Shear Ease, wonderful service,mine took 3 days door to door and they even sharpened them although I had underpaid by mistake! Have used them for years xx
NOISYGIRL
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I used Agrihealth who took over Eddie Palin
Sent my blades on the sat, they arrived there monday, had them back wednesday and that was to Ireland, address below, and they send you a nice jiffy bag and order form ready for next time, so easy £8.61 for one set, price goes down the more you send so worth checking with them if you have more than 1 set
Agrihealth (NI) Ltd
9 Silverwood Industrial Area
Silverwood Road
Lurgen
Craigavon
Co. Armagh BT66 6LN
Sent my blades on the sat, they arrived there monday, had them back wednesday and that was to Ireland, address below, and they send you a nice jiffy bag and order form ready for next time, so easy £8.61 for one set, price goes down the more you send so worth checking with them if you have more than 1 set
Agrihealth (NI) Ltd
9 Silverwood Industrial Area
Silverwood Road
Lurgen
Craigavon
Co. Armagh BT66 6LN
ofcourseyoucan
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i send my clippers to be serviced and PAT tested, and my blades to be sharpened!!! to R T Anthony in Docklow, leominster. He is excellent, and very fast turn around. and very good value.
Shear Ease
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Clipper blade sharpening...now there's something I happen to know a little about!
The most relevant question to ask first is:
'HOW should my blades be sharpened'
Then: 'therefor, WHO should I send them to'
and to answer that you should ask:
'who, out of those that will sharpen them correctly, is the CHEAPEST?'.
Although I am not in a position to recommend 1 company, this may help you with your decision...
You can search for hours on end on the internet to find out exactly HOW a blade should be sharpened. Company A will say all blades should be ground flat, company B will say all blades should be hollow ground, company C will say all blades should be flat lapped and company D will say all blades should be hollow lapped. Hopefully this will help you decide which method is most suitable for you.
Essentially, there are 3 ways to sharpen a clipper blade. There are loads of cottage ways to TRY and sharpen a clipper blade, but there are only 3 that are worth considering and that will not completely ruin a blade. They are: a grinding wheel, a lapping wheel and an oil stone. Heres a brief description of each. The descriptions are of the methods relative to sharpening a clipper blade.
Oil Stone: Disregarding the more complex oil stone, an oil stone in its simplest form is a block of either quarried or man made stone. The top surface is perfectly flat and comes in various different grades. Allot of the most useful and popular oil stones are diamond plated. Although this sounds fancy and expensive it is the same as an oil stone with the addition of a steel, plastic or resin plate which is coated in fine diamond grit. A grade denotes the size of the grit on the stone and therefor also denotes the smoothness or coarseness of the finish it leaves. A finish is achieved by rubbing the work piece surface back and forth on the stone. The plate may have a series of holes cut in it that capture the debris as grinding takes place. An oil stone is comparatively smoother than a grinding wheel but similar to a lapping wheel.
Grinding Wheel: A wheel, made from aluminium, with tiny ridges and pits can be anything from 12 inches to 25 inches in diameter. The wheel itself is just a carrier for an abrasive. The pits hold the abrasive. Abrasives can be a diamond solution (wet or dry) or a paste made of fat and graded sand (silicon dioxide). The abrasive is applied and then the work piece surface is ran back and forth across the radius of the wheel. The coarseness of the cut is determined by the size of the sand particles in the paste. The wheel rotates comparatively faster than a lapping wheel and is comparatively rougher than a lapping wheel or oil stone.
Lapping Wheel: A wheel made of cast iron. It is extremely smooth, except for grooves which run along the radius to drain excess abrasive and carrier. The wheel rotates comparatively slow and is comparatively smoother than a grinding wheel but similar to an oil stone. The workpeice is held inside a rotating ring by a jig, loose weight or holding arm depending on design. The workpiece then rotates on top of a rotating wheel creating a double rotation that ensures even sharpening. An abrasive solution is then applied to the wheel that depending on grade, polishes and sharpens the surface. A lapping wheel is comparatively smoother and rotates comparatively slower than a grinding wheel.
So there we have the three types of method. Next thing to consider is concavity or hollow grind. The reasons for having a concaved blade are largely hazed over. It would appear that many clipper blade sharpening companies/individuals have a limited understanding for the reasons. They know that a lapping wheel leaves a comparatively smooth finish and takes less material off (which is obviously better) and therefore rave about it and spout the adjoining hollow ground without knowing the reasons. Again, the following is an understanding, derived from years of experience.
To decide whether a blade should be concaved or flat depends on the way the two blades are tensioned together.
All horse and sheep (aside from heineger, maverick and oster stewart blades) have a tension set that pulls the blades together from one single point in the middle. Bearing in mind, we are talking microns (1 micron 1000th of a mm), when tension is applied it pulls the blades together in the middle of the blade which bends the blade (again bearing in mind we are talking 1000ths of a mm). If this blade is flat, the pressure will be concentrated in the middle and therefore the blades may blunt quicker. This is where a hollow grind is preffered, if the blades are hollow, when they are pulled together, it will pull them flat, making sure wear is even and spread across the whole blade. This even spread of wear means that the blade should last longer. as far as I know its almost impossible to achieve a concaved finish without specialist equipment.
Other blades are tensioned evenly across the cutter, so there is no need to for the blades to be concaved. This includes most small blade and the exceptions mentioned in the above paragraph.
Above are the two ideals for the blades but because the differences are so minimal, both methods are acceptable for any type of blade.
The variables that make a blade blunt are such a substantial factor that the concavity or flatness of a blade is massively insignificant. For instance, a blade that the factory sharpens according to its ideal but is over tensioned, under lubricated and clipping through dirty hair will blunt much, much quicker, than an old blade sharpened contrary to the ideal, which is tensioned properly, lubricated and cleaned often and cutting clean hair. To add to this, not all major and well known blade manufactures hollow lap their blades at the factory, some are ground.
Now that concavity and flatness have been discussed you must now decide whether you want them to be lapped or ground.
There is no definite answer to this, it is up to an informed individual to decide what is best according to their needs.
Lapping is generally smoother and takes comparatively less material off the blade, meaning it could be sharpened more times before all the material has been ground away. Grinding is different. Sharpening a clipper blade using a grinding wheel requires more user skill than a lapping wheel but is alot quicker. Some modern lapping wheels available on the market almost take away the need for any skill, where as without skill, a blade can be destroyed in seconds on a grinding wheel. If your blade has been hand ground, it has been done by an experienced blade smith. You cannot guarantee this with a lapped blade. In most applications, grinding is fine, if a blade is rusty and pitted, you would have to grind (unless you have forever and a day to wait for your blade to be sharpened)
Once blades are sharpened, some types of blade require assembling and tensioning correctly before they can be used, unfortunately this cannot be taught in writing! This comes from experience!
Aside from an oil stone, the equipment to lap or grind blades is expensive. An oil stone takes ALLOT of effort but is cost effective if you have the time. If you do not have the time or finances to buy proper clipper blade sharpening equipment then you should consider sending your blades to a competent blade sharpening company.
If you are unsure which to use, ask around for a good company, then phone the companies and ask how they sharpen the blades and why. This way you will avoid sending your blades to a Del boy wannabe who will sharpen them on a belt sander! A good starting place is always the manufacturers own service department, aside from the manufacturers own sharpening service there are companies like Shear Ease, Clippersharp and Alan Talbot that will have them done in a jiffy to a high standard.
Also another consideration once you have narrowed it down to a competent company is postage, VAT and all of that good stuff. Some companies make one price prominent but that price may not include VAT, postage to the company or return postage where as some companies have this all included. If you have the time to work out the total cost of sending your blades for sharpening do so, that way there are no hazy prices!
Hope that helps my friend, happy clipping!
The most relevant question to ask first is:
'HOW should my blades be sharpened'
Then: 'therefor, WHO should I send them to'
and to answer that you should ask:
'who, out of those that will sharpen them correctly, is the CHEAPEST?'.
Although I am not in a position to recommend 1 company, this may help you with your decision...
You can search for hours on end on the internet to find out exactly HOW a blade should be sharpened. Company A will say all blades should be ground flat, company B will say all blades should be hollow ground, company C will say all blades should be flat lapped and company D will say all blades should be hollow lapped. Hopefully this will help you decide which method is most suitable for you.
Essentially, there are 3 ways to sharpen a clipper blade. There are loads of cottage ways to TRY and sharpen a clipper blade, but there are only 3 that are worth considering and that will not completely ruin a blade. They are: a grinding wheel, a lapping wheel and an oil stone. Heres a brief description of each. The descriptions are of the methods relative to sharpening a clipper blade.
Oil Stone: Disregarding the more complex oil stone, an oil stone in its simplest form is a block of either quarried or man made stone. The top surface is perfectly flat and comes in various different grades. Allot of the most useful and popular oil stones are diamond plated. Although this sounds fancy and expensive it is the same as an oil stone with the addition of a steel, plastic or resin plate which is coated in fine diamond grit. A grade denotes the size of the grit on the stone and therefor also denotes the smoothness or coarseness of the finish it leaves. A finish is achieved by rubbing the work piece surface back and forth on the stone. The plate may have a series of holes cut in it that capture the debris as grinding takes place. An oil stone is comparatively smoother than a grinding wheel but similar to a lapping wheel.
Grinding Wheel: A wheel, made from aluminium, with tiny ridges and pits can be anything from 12 inches to 25 inches in diameter. The wheel itself is just a carrier for an abrasive. The pits hold the abrasive. Abrasives can be a diamond solution (wet or dry) or a paste made of fat and graded sand (silicon dioxide). The abrasive is applied and then the work piece surface is ran back and forth across the radius of the wheel. The coarseness of the cut is determined by the size of the sand particles in the paste. The wheel rotates comparatively faster than a lapping wheel and is comparatively rougher than a lapping wheel or oil stone.
Lapping Wheel: A wheel made of cast iron. It is extremely smooth, except for grooves which run along the radius to drain excess abrasive and carrier. The wheel rotates comparatively slow and is comparatively smoother than a grinding wheel but similar to an oil stone. The workpeice is held inside a rotating ring by a jig, loose weight or holding arm depending on design. The workpiece then rotates on top of a rotating wheel creating a double rotation that ensures even sharpening. An abrasive solution is then applied to the wheel that depending on grade, polishes and sharpens the surface. A lapping wheel is comparatively smoother and rotates comparatively slower than a grinding wheel.
So there we have the three types of method. Next thing to consider is concavity or hollow grind. The reasons for having a concaved blade are largely hazed over. It would appear that many clipper blade sharpening companies/individuals have a limited understanding for the reasons. They know that a lapping wheel leaves a comparatively smooth finish and takes less material off (which is obviously better) and therefore rave about it and spout the adjoining hollow ground without knowing the reasons. Again, the following is an understanding, derived from years of experience.
To decide whether a blade should be concaved or flat depends on the way the two blades are tensioned together.
All horse and sheep (aside from heineger, maverick and oster stewart blades) have a tension set that pulls the blades together from one single point in the middle. Bearing in mind, we are talking microns (1 micron 1000th of a mm), when tension is applied it pulls the blades together in the middle of the blade which bends the blade (again bearing in mind we are talking 1000ths of a mm). If this blade is flat, the pressure will be concentrated in the middle and therefore the blades may blunt quicker. This is where a hollow grind is preffered, if the blades are hollow, when they are pulled together, it will pull them flat, making sure wear is even and spread across the whole blade. This even spread of wear means that the blade should last longer. as far as I know its almost impossible to achieve a concaved finish without specialist equipment.
Other blades are tensioned evenly across the cutter, so there is no need to for the blades to be concaved. This includes most small blade and the exceptions mentioned in the above paragraph.
Above are the two ideals for the blades but because the differences are so minimal, both methods are acceptable for any type of blade.
The variables that make a blade blunt are such a substantial factor that the concavity or flatness of a blade is massively insignificant. For instance, a blade that the factory sharpens according to its ideal but is over tensioned, under lubricated and clipping through dirty hair will blunt much, much quicker, than an old blade sharpened contrary to the ideal, which is tensioned properly, lubricated and cleaned often and cutting clean hair. To add to this, not all major and well known blade manufactures hollow lap their blades at the factory, some are ground.
Now that concavity and flatness have been discussed you must now decide whether you want them to be lapped or ground.
There is no definite answer to this, it is up to an informed individual to decide what is best according to their needs.
Lapping is generally smoother and takes comparatively less material off the blade, meaning it could be sharpened more times before all the material has been ground away. Grinding is different. Sharpening a clipper blade using a grinding wheel requires more user skill than a lapping wheel but is alot quicker. Some modern lapping wheels available on the market almost take away the need for any skill, where as without skill, a blade can be destroyed in seconds on a grinding wheel. If your blade has been hand ground, it has been done by an experienced blade smith. You cannot guarantee this with a lapped blade. In most applications, grinding is fine, if a blade is rusty and pitted, you would have to grind (unless you have forever and a day to wait for your blade to be sharpened)
Once blades are sharpened, some types of blade require assembling and tensioning correctly before they can be used, unfortunately this cannot be taught in writing! This comes from experience!
Aside from an oil stone, the equipment to lap or grind blades is expensive. An oil stone takes ALLOT of effort but is cost effective if you have the time. If you do not have the time or finances to buy proper clipper blade sharpening equipment then you should consider sending your blades to a competent blade sharpening company.
If you are unsure which to use, ask around for a good company, then phone the companies and ask how they sharpen the blades and why. This way you will avoid sending your blades to a Del boy wannabe who will sharpen them on a belt sander! A good starting place is always the manufacturers own service department, aside from the manufacturers own sharpening service there are companies like Shear Ease, Clippersharp and Alan Talbot that will have them done in a jiffy to a high standard.
Also another consideration once you have narrowed it down to a competent company is postage, VAT and all of that good stuff. Some companies make one price prominent but that price may not include VAT, postage to the company or return postage where as some companies have this all included. If you have the time to work out the total cost of sending your blades for sharpening do so, that way there are no hazy prices!
Hope that helps my friend, happy clipping!
CrazyMare
Well-Known Member
Mine go to Shear Ease - Fantastic service, back VERY quickly, complete with a little package for sending the next set in. Recomended to my friend who has just sent 2 of 4sets to them, and had them back super quick.
Can't wait to start clipping - ponies look like hairy yaks already.
Can't wait to start clipping - ponies look like hairy yaks already.
EmmaC78
Well-Known Member
Normally use Clipper Sharp and have had no issues with them.