cold induced laminitis (winter laminitis) and leg wraps for the novice

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I have a horse with cold induced laminitis (winter laminitis) so he is going to have to be stabled, have overnight boots (RX2s I think) and his legs are going to have to be wrapped.
I have little experience of leg wraps. Def. don't want bandaging

The wraps are to keep the legs warm and must go down to the top of the boots ie below the fetlock.

Can anyone tell me if these would be suitable for overnight stabling and for what I need.

In the daytime he will wander around the yard/dry track areas with boots (different ones) would these leg wraps be able to stay on for wandering?

thanks for any help to avoid an expensive mistake :D




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They are really good wraps. I use them for drying off legs for a few hours, but have never used them overnight.

IMHO they wouldn’t do for turnout or wandering around.

Does the horse have Cushing’s? Cold induced laminitis in the snow as a one off was the first symptom that my now senior PPID mare showed. She’s not had it since, and that was over 10 years ago.. At the time the vet hadn’t thought it was lami, but on retrospect it was - rooted to the ground refusing to move.

ETA The Urban Horse lady has a Cushing's oldie that gets winter lami, she puts leg wraps on him. Have a look at the Urban Horse FB page or pop her a message, she’s very helpful.
 
Yes they will be fine. I had Equilibrium magnetic wraps, but they looked very similar. They will be ok for outside if it's not raining. I used turnout boots when turned out in cold temperatures. You'll probably need a couple of sets to change when they get wet.
 
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paddy555 said:
I have a horse with cold induced laminitis (winter laminitis) so he is going to have to be stabled, have overnight boots (RX2s I think) and his legs are going to have to be wrapped.
I have little experience of leg wraps. Def. don't want bandaging

The wraps are to keep the legs warm and must go down to the top of the boots ie below the fetlock.

Can anyone tell me if these would be suitable for overnight stabling and for what I need.

In the daytime he will wander around the yard/dry track areas with boots (different ones) would these leg wraps be able to stay on for wandering?

thanks for any help to avoid an expensive mistake :D




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Thermatex Quilted Covered Leg Wraps (set of 4) | Aster Horses

Manufactured using a double layer of Thermatex and covered with a layer of Ballistic Nylon for durability.Main features:Manufactured from a double layer of quilted ThermatexCovered with 1000 Denier Breathable Ballistic NylonTreated to allow moisture to wick throughThe tough covering makes for...
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Thermatex leg wraps are excellent 👌 gold standard can't buy better.
 
I've got those bought in the seconds sale and really good wraps.

Never used them outside, they'd be damp resistant not waterproof and I'd prefer something shaped for turnout if likely to be active.

I have some equilibrium turnout boots for that but my focus is to keep mud off so different requirements.

There's a good FB thermatex buy and sell group.

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I used to look after some hunters and they always had Thermatex leg wraps over night. They maybe slipped down slightly so do them as tight as you can! They were really good though and pretty much stayed in place. Legs were always warm and dry in no time.
 
paddy555 said:
I have a horse with cold induced laminitis (winter laminitis) so he is going to have to be stabled, have overnight boots (RX2s I think) and his legs are going to have to be wrapped.
I have little experience of leg wraps. Def. don't want bandaging

The wraps are to keep the legs warm and must go down to the top of the boots ie below the fetlock.

Can anyone tell me if these would be suitable for overnight stabling and for what I need.

In the daytime he will wander around the yard/dry track areas with boots (different ones) would these leg wraps be able to stay on for wandering?

thanks for any help to avoid an expensive mistake :D




www.asterhorses.co.uk

Thermatex Quilted Covered Leg Wraps (set of 4) | Aster Horses

Manufactured using a double layer of Thermatex and covered with a layer of Ballistic Nylon for durability.Main features:Manufactured from a double layer of quilted ThermatexCovered with 1000 Denier Breathable Ballistic NylonTreated to allow moisture to wick throughThe tough covering makes for...
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Bad luck, that’s going to be bug*er to manage in future, and definitely worth checking for Cushings /similar, you have my full sympathy.
Thermatex wraps: got plain wool ones, Cordura covered ones, travel shaped ones - they are very good, including for overnight.
You can put them on fairly tightly ( even the cordura covered ones), and if turning outside maybe consider additional twists of duct tape which you can peel off easily. Horse unlikely to be bombing round with laminitis, vets often want them standing still, but Thermatex will get wet if it pours down, which could make them more saggy. (Dry out fairly fast on a radiator)
Have a look on second hand sites, because Thermatex are quite pricey new. It’s a good product, but I know other makes are popular and possibly as effective, so maybe look at some product reviews, too?
Hope things go well, just what nobody needs right before Xmas, I’m very sorry.
 
Not the question you asked.

But Jiagulan has been very helpful for a friend who has one that suffers with winter laminitis.

She hasn’t needed to stable or wrap legs since she’s been using it. And she now just uses it winter when the temperature drops.
 
I used to use the neoprene leg wraps on mine who got cold induced laminitis, I think they were meant to keep mud off they never slipped and went down nicely into the cavallo hoof boots he wore for turnout.
 
Tiddlypom said:
They are really good wraps. I use them for drying off legs for a few hours, but have never used them overnight.

IMHO they wouldn’t do for turnout or wandering around.

Does the horse have Cushing’s? Cold induced laminitis in the snow as a one off was the first symptom that my now senior PPID mare showed. She’s not had it since, and that was over 10 years ago.. At the time the vet hadn’t thought it was lami, but on retrospect it was - rooted to the ground refusing to move.

ETA The Urban Horse lady has a Cushing's oldie that gets winter lami, she puts leg wraps on him. Have a look at the Urban Horse FB page or pop her a message, she’s very helpful.
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thanks
Yes cushings. Hopefully as the pills kick in he should improve. Thankfully got it very quickly and not as bad a rooted to the ground and the feet are not really affected so very lucky.

I have seen the urban horse lady's piece on her site. Mine is almost identical just older. We are OK on the boot side but she just seems to suggest wraps bandaged on.
 
criso said:
I've got those bought in the seconds sale and really good wraps.

Never used them outside, they'd be damp resistant not waterproof and I'd prefer something shaped for turnout if likely to be active.

I have some equilibrium turnout boots for that but my focus is to keep mud off so different requirements.

There's a good FB thermatex buy and sell group.

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thanks for that. I have just applied to join.
 
poiuytrewq said:
I used to look after some hunters and they always had Thermatex leg wraps over night. They maybe slipped down slightly so do them as tight as you can! They were really good though and pretty much stayed in place. Legs were always warm and dry in no time.
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excellent. Just the words I wanted to hear. :)
 
GinaGeo said:
Not the question you asked.

But Jiagulan has been very helpful for a friend who has one that suffers with winter laminitis.

She hasn’t needed to stable or wrap legs since she’s been using it. And she now just uses it winter when the temperature drops.
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I have read about that on Dr K's stuff and on FP. Will bear it in mind. thanks :)
 
Exasperated said:
Bad luck, that’s going to be bug*er to manage in future, and definitely worth checking for Cushings /similar, you have my full sympathy.
Thermatex wraps: got plain wool ones, Cordura covered ones, travel shaped ones - they are very good, including for overnight.
You can put them on fairly tightly ( even the cordura covered ones), and if turning outside maybe consider additional twists of duct tape which you can peel off easily. Horse unlikely to be bombing round with laminitis, vets often want them standing still, but Thermatex will get wet if it pours down, which could make them more saggy. (Dry out fairly fast on a radiator)
Have a look on second hand sites, because Thermatex are quite pricey new. It’s a good product, but I know other makes are popular and possibly as effective, so maybe look at some product reviews, too?
Hope things go well, just what nobody needs right before Xmas, I’m very sorry.
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thanks. Not too much of a problem. I have experience managing cushings and lami. (not that I ever wanted experience in that area :D:D:D)

feet are OK and that is all that really matters. The rest I can work round. Just need to choose the right product.
 
paddy555 said:
thanks. Not too much of a problem. I have experience managing cushings and lami. (not that I ever wanted experience in that area :D:D:D)

feet are OK and that is all that really matters. The rest I can work round. Just need to choose the right product.
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Oh good, sounds like you’re onto it all! Feet are the biggies.
Used to be another Welsh manufacturer, Lansdown, ‘thermelite’, and I remember thinking a friend’s Lansdown rug preferable to our thermatexes ( was actually a better fit, indistinguishable fabric, identical effect), and less money.
Still going???
They made other equestrian products, wraps too I think, might be worth checking them out.
 
Exasperated said:
Oh good, sounds like you’re onto it all! Feet are the biggies.
Used to be another Welsh manufacturer, Lansdown, ‘thermelite’, and I remember thinking a friend’s Lansdown rug preferable to our thermatexes ( was actually a better fit, indistinguishable fabric, identical effect), and less money.
Still going???
They made other equestrian products, wraps too I think, might be worth checking them out.
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Lansdown have unfortunately stopped production and are looking to shut down the business
 
Daiquiri said:
Lansdown have unfortunately stopped production and are looking to shut down the business
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That’s a shame! Were decent products, rugs on a par with Thermatex, for sure.
Are they still selling old stock off? And if so, is there a contact for them? - people on here would probably be interested.
 
I use wraps from cottage equestrian and dreamhorse equestrian i think it is. Nice quality and cheap enough to wash and dry. If going out and it’s wet i use turnout boots. Luckily mine seems to fair okay with the cold weather at the moment 🤞🏻
 
Bellaboo18 said:
I've got these from premier equine, I tried them on my mare once and they were too small. If they happen to be the right size and can be of use you're more than welcome to them (from one rehabber to another)View attachment 151398
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Just seen your reply. That is very kind of you. Thank you. Are you dealing with cold induced lami as well. What size are yours?

I have just looked at PE sizing guide and I would guess mine will be L. Can’t measure as both he and I are in bed. I will measure him in the morning. Thanks again.
 
I've just dug them out and they're a medium but if you measure him, just let me know if they'd be any use.

Luckily I've got no experience with cold induced lami but plenty of other types of rehab unfortunately!
 
Bellaboo18 said:
I've just dug them out and they're a medium but if you measure him, just let me know if they'd be any use.

Luckily I've got no experience with cold induced lami but plenty of other types of rehab unfortunately!
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I have measured him and sadly he is large. What a pity. That would have been so helpful. Thank you very much for the offer, that was very kind.

I hope yours is OK. You are right there are far too many types of rehabs. Lots of areas I had no desire whatsoever to gain experience in. :rolleyes::D:D
 
Louis grows hair on his legs like a yak in winter it looks really odd when his clipped thet look like big wooly leg warmers but at least they keep him warm.

I clip the legs in spring but just run the clippers down the leg so just takes the really long hairs off to keep him comfortable.
 
Tiddlypom said:
How’s he doing in this cold snap, paddy555? Hopefully doing well.

I know that the Urban Horse lady dreads conditions like this with her cold sensitive Cushing’s oldie.
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his feet are doing good, in fact they are doing excellently. The problem is the rest of him. :D:D
Nightmare comes to mind. We were doing fine in the run up to Xmas. He was being walked in hand daily out on the roads and mooching in the yard.
Then we had Boxing Day. Tally Ho! and all that.
He was perfectly sound at the canter bucking and rearing in his small yard. :rolleyes: So back stabled 24/7
Then we had another meet another meet 3 days later, back to stabled 24/7, then shooting back to stabled. Are you getting the picture?
then another meet then another shoot. He is very sensitive and each time he is shut in for hunting and shooting he is totally riled up and over the top.
Put him out in a small area to roll, couldn't catch him, totally out of control.
Then snow and ice so obviously inside in the warm. Currently we have a lot of snow and ice so stuck.

I am in all honestly losing the will to live and depression is really creeping in
I just wish the hunt and shoot would go away, they are causing far more problems than lami ever did.

He is in RX2s the most horrible boots ever. Hate them but they do keep his feet warm.

Oh and they are hunting again on Saturday so that is really going to be great.

only good thing is no reactions at all to 1 tablet of pergoquin.

Thanks for asking.:):)
 
paddy555 said:
his feet are doing good, in fact they are doing excellently. The problem is the rest of him. :D:D
Nightmare comes to mind. We were doing fine in the run up to Xmas. He was being walked in hand daily out on the roads and mooching in the yard.
Then we had Boxing Day. Tally Ho! and all that.
He was perfectly sound at the canter bucking and rearing in his small yard. :rolleyes: So back stabled 24/7
Then we had another meet another meet 3 days later, back to stabled 24/7, then shooting back to stabled. Are you getting the picture?
then another meet then another shoot. He is very sensitive and each time he is shut in for hunting and shooting he is totally riled up and over the top.
Put him out in a small area to roll, couldn't catch him, totally out of control.
Then snow and ice so obviously inside in the warm. Currently we have a lot of snow and ice so stuck.

I am in all honestly losing the will to live and depression is really creeping in
I just wish the hunt and shoot would go away, they are causing far more problems than lami ever did.

He is in RX2s the most horrible boots ever. Hate them but they do keep his feet warm.

Oh and they are hunting again on Saturday so that is really going to be great.

only good thing is no reactions at all to 1 tablet of pergoquin.

Thanks for asking.:):)
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That sounds really frustrating and makes me feel grateful that I don't live in a really rural area, so no hunts or shooting nearby. My old mare would have reacted the same I'm sure.
 
paddy555 said:
his feet are doing good, in fact they are doing excellently. The problem is the rest of him. :D:D
Nightmare comes to mind. We were doing fine in the run up to Xmas. He was being walked in hand daily out on the roads and mooching in the yard.
Then we had Boxing Day. Tally Ho! and all that.
He was perfectly sound at the canter bucking and rearing in his small yard. :rolleyes: So back stabled 24/7
Then we had another meet another meet 3 days later, back to stabled 24/7, then shooting back to stabled. Are you getting the picture?
then another meet then another shoot. He is very sensitive and each time he is shut in for hunting and shooting he is totally riled up and over the top.
Put him out in a small area to roll, couldn't catch him, totally out of control.
Then snow and ice so obviously inside in the warm. Currently we have a lot of snow and ice so stuck.

I am in all honestly losing the will to live and depression is really creeping in
I just wish the hunt and shoot would go away, they are causing far more problems than lami ever did.

He is in RX2s the most horrible boots ever. Hate them but they do keep his feet warm.

Oh and they are hunting again on Saturday so that is really going to be great.

only good thing is no reactions at all to 1 tablet of pergoquin.

Thanks for asking.:):)
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Oh dear, that’s frustrating, at least his feet are holding up.
Maybe some ACP, calm him down for all the field sport activity? Also a vasodilator, so would assist blood flow to extremities....
Good luck
 
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