Colic out hacking?!

Thank you for up date OP. As you say its hard as a sharer. Hopefully it wont happen again but if it does tell owner. If she doesnt seek vet advice i think you should walk away from share. You may love the horse but an owner not prepared to seek vet advice(and it may not be anything serious) is putting you at poss risk. But fingers crossed x
 
MrsD123 said:
Thinking about it it it was probably a blood vessel, but it seems odd the owner was not interested.
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It's not that she wasn't interested, she was concerned, thanked me for bringing him home safely, but obviously didn't feel it necessary to call the vet.

If it does happen again or he shows any signs of being unwell I will definitely tell her. I treat him as my own pretty much, I'm there every day, I look after him and her other horse as well. If anything is wrong/different I let her know. Tbh sometimes I feel like her groom! But then I remember she lets me ride both her horses while just paying half the price of a set of shoes for the main one I ride.

If she ever decides to sell him I'd have him in an instant despite the fact he's a bit useless sometimes!

I spoke to her dad about it earlier and he said it might be I was 'pumping him too full of food'. He's a bit underweight so I was splitting his feed and giving him a bit lunchtime/early afternoon and then the rest around 5. He would be better having breakfast but we tried that and he would forget to give it to him some days, not exactly helpful and it made me feel awful and like it was my fault it happened. :(
 
Captain Bridget said:
It's not that she wasn't interested, she was concerned, thanked me for bringing him home safely, but obviously didn't feel it necessary to call the vet.

If it does happen again or he shows any signs of being unwell I will definitely tell her. I treat him as my own pretty much, I'm there every day, I look after him and her other horse as well. If anything is wrong/different I let her know. Tbh sometimes I feel like her groom! But then I remember she lets me ride both her horses while just paying half the price of a set of shoes for the main one I ride.

If she ever decides to sell him I'd have him in an instant despite the fact he's a bit useless sometimes!

I spoke to her dad about it earlier and he said it might be I was 'pumping him too full of food'. He's a bit underweight so I was splitting his feed and giving him a bit lunchtime/early afternoon and then the rest around 5. He would be better having breakfast but we tried that and he would forget to give it to him some days, not exactly helpful and it made me feel awful and like it was my fault it happened. :(
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You did what you could under the circumstances. It's ok for me to cry get the vet (just because that's what I would have done), you are not in the same situation as me with my horses. He's a lucky man and hopefully he's OK, his owner knows him too and of course she'll make the call if necessary because it's out of your hands. If I had to share my horse, I'd like a sharer like you :)
 
doriangrey said:
You did what you could under the circumstances. It's ok for me to cry get the vet (just because that's what I would have done), you are not in the same situation as me with my horses. He's a lucky man and hopefully he's OK, his owner knows him too and of course she'll make the call if necessary because it's out of your hands. If I had to share my horse, I'd like a sharer like you :)
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Thank you, that's lovely of you to say. I do my best! Unfortunately he's had the vet out twice in the last few months but only due to getting cuts in the field. Who knows how, he's a typical self harming TB! ;)

I'm about to go to up and see him (when it stops hailing..) but won't ride. How long would you usually leave a horse after something like this? I don't want to cause any more issues.

Thank you for all the kinds words and help everyone, means a lot!
 
Doesn't sound like colic to me. Sounds more like he could hear something in the woods that you couldn't. Hunt? Other riders? Dogs chasing or killing something? Screaming his head off is anxiety and calling to other horses for reassurance. The fact that he settled as you walked on and his adrenaline levels would have dropped is telling. Hope he's ok now. I'd take care out on your own for a while.
 
Box_Of_Frogs said:
Doesn't sound like colic to me. Sounds more like he could hear something in the woods that you couldn't. Hunt? Other riders? Dogs chasing or killing something? Screaming his head off is anxiety and calling to other horses for reassurance. The fact that he settled as you walked on and his adrenaline levels would have dropped is telling. Hope he's ok now. I'd take care out on your own for a while.
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I don't think hearing something I couldn't would cause a nosebleed though.

I assume he was anxious because he was feeling 'unwell' so automatically called for reassurance from his field mate, who unfortunately was nearly 3 miles away!

If he does hear something such as the shoot or dogs he will just stand stock still and stare in the direction of the sound.

I'm going to walk him in hand today, not sure I'll be happy taking him out alone for a little while though.
 
Could he have been stung or bitten by something? The nosebleed could have been caused by all his stressing and stomping about - particularly if he is prone to them (obviously don't know if this is the case). Really I have no idea - not something that I have ever known or heard of - so just a suggestion. Did you check thoroughly for any swellings or lumps?
 
kerenza said:
Could he have been stung or bitten by something? The nosebleed could have been caused by all his stressing and stomping about - particularly if he is prone to them (obviously don't know if this is the case). Really I have no idea - not something that I have ever known or heard of - so just a suggestion. Did you check thoroughly for any swellings or lumps?
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I couldn't check him straight away as he was still all over the place but had a good look at home and couldn't see anything. It is a possibility though, especially as he returned to normal so quickly.

I've been riding him for a year and a half and never seen him have a nosebleed before but he is an ex racer so possible he is prone to them.

His owner has the day off today as she's changing job so we're going out for a gentle ride this afternoon. I'll let you know how he is.
 
Bleeding is not that common in T.B.s and it would not usually occur at home, more when galloping on the racecourse, lets hope it is a one off, I would not let it put you off enjoying a good canter.
 
Captain Bridget said:
I couldn't check him straight away as he was still all over the place but had a good look at home and couldn't see anything. It is a possibility though, especially as he returned to normal so quickly.

I've been riding him for a year and a half and never seen him have a nosebleed before but he is an ex racer so possible he is prone to them.

His owner has the day off today as she's changing job so we're going out for a gentle ride this afternoon. I'll let you know how he is.
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I know I've said this many times now, but honestly I would put money on him having just burst a blood vessel. Particularly if its happened before. It can be a strange sensation and can scare them.
 
He should have been scoped by the vet, could have blood in the trachea or larynx both being a different issue, esp if blood in the lungs, was a vet ever called.
 
Patterdale said:
I know I've said this many times now, but honestly I would put money on him having just burst a blood vessel. Particularly if its happened before. It can be a strange sensation and can scare them.
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Yes, I think this is exactly what happened. He's a worrier as it is so I'm sure it would have scared him and made him react that way.

I took him out today along with his owner on her other horse and he was fine, even had a wee canter through a flooded field. ;)
 
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