Collapsing thought the hip in half pass any tips to help my uselessness?!

Vickijay

Vickijay

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Hi,

I just thought I'd go on the scrounge for some help as it will be another month till I can get to my dressage teacher.

We were working on starting half pass so want to try to improve that slightly before I go back. In her huge arena we were turning on the 3/4 line, riding straight for a few metres, moving to shoulder in towards the fence, then half passing back to the track.

I'm not sure if it's because our arena is smaller but at home I find it really hard to not collapse through my hip on the side that I'm pushing her across from. It's almost like there's too much to think about!! I have changed to riding a 10m circle at the corner at the start of the long side and then coming off the track but I still have the problem (although not as bad)

Any tips? On staying straight and not getting skewif?

I'm fine in leg yield, shoulder in, travers etc, just find the half pass twists me up :(

Can offer a insane amount of chocolate that we were brought for Christmas....really.... Am happy to post it lol

Thanks

Vicki :)
 
No short term solutions as I do much the same. However for Xmas I had an interesting book on Pilaties for riding which addressed many of these problems and exercises to help strengthen and improve your posture. Will try some of these and let you know if it works!
 
If you know which way you collapse, a great tip to correct it is to take away just the opposite stirrup. I got this from a top trainer who said you either straighten up or fall off... ;)
 
Sarah_Jane said:
No short term solutions as I do much the same. However for Xmas I had an interesting book on Pilaties for riding which addressed many of these problems and exercises to help strengthen and improve your posture. Will try some of these and let you know if it works!
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Great, I'll google Pilates riding book!!

SpottedCat said:
If you know which way you collapse, a great tip to correct it is to take away just the opposite stirrup. I got this from a top trainer who said you either straighten up or fall off... ;)
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Ok, that's tomorrow's entertainment sorted!!

So if I'm HP'ing right from the CL to the track on the left rein it feels like my left bottom rib/shoulder is closer to my hip than it should be so I'm almost curving left. So right stirrup away?
 
I'm confused!! I feel a wierd urge to try this stirrup removal technique, so...
If I collapse into my left hip (i.e. my right shoulder drops and my waist bows out to the left - if you were looking at me from behind it would look like my torso was making a C shape) do I take away the left stirrup?
 
Roody2 said:
I'm confused!! I feel a wierd urge to try this stirrup removal technique, so...
If I collapse into my left hip (i.e. my right shoulder drops and my waist bows out to the left - if you were looking at me from behind it would look like my torso was making a C shape) do I take away the left stirrup?
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Wouldn't that be collapsing your right hip? (see it all becomes clear why I find this hard!!!!)

Wouldn't right hip collapse (right shoulder towards right hip so elongating the left side) make you into a C shape (from behind)..... and a left hip collapse (left shoulder towards left hip elongating the right side ) make you into a reversed/mirrored C?! (from behind)

Maye I'm too tired for this today!!!! Or just totally useless!!!!
 
to me if you are collasping through your left hip you bend to the right as you move your upper body to right to compensate. Therefore take away your left stirrup because if no stirrup to keep you in place you will slip off. as said above Jane BW I remember doing it lots but she went to extreme of shortening say the right stirrup to ultra short proportions and taking away the left so you had to straighten up pretty quick sharp :p :D
 
hi i am new to the forum so sorry if incorrect, but i would agree with the above post of taking away the stirrup my trainer also uses this idea but makes me stand up in stirrups first!! i also got told straighten up or come off! lol. it took a while but we have got there! :)
 
Lol!! So confusing, I guess we have two different ways of defining it, I class it as collapsing INTO my left hip as that is where the weight goes, you describe it as the upper body collapsing TOWARDS the right hip.

Anyhows, if I make a C shape from behind then I shall remove my left stirrup and see how long I stay on board.....
 
have you tried riding it bareback??

I know this is a big no no with some people but I have found with my lad I sit much straighter in lateral work without a saddle, he is a big skinny TB though so I suppose the theory is if a slip either way it is going to hurt ALOT!

has improved my position loads though :)
 
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