Colour/Appaloosa experts.....

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Hi! Would really like to know what people think my boy will end up colour-wise.

Apologies for the amount of pictures! Please feel free to share your own of your Appy's as they have 'coloured out' over the years :)

When I got him I expected him to grey out over the years and end up mostly 'white' (he is just about to turn 2)

He is a snowcap at the moment, so not really supposed to have spots, but that's where I am getting confused! He has the typical snowcap white blanket with no spots, but all around his back end are dark spots about thumb-print size that are slowly appearing on his darker parts.

Just interested to know if there is anyone out there with a horse that was similarly coloured when young or what any colour experts out there think will happen - will he spot out, grey out or keep his colour as it is now??

Any opinions welcome!

Most recent pic - getting white spots up neck and dark spots starting to appear behind -
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Day old -
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A few months old with mum -
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Spots on bum -
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Dad -
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He is absolutly beautiful! I love his leg markings, very unusual!!

I have no idea on colour so I wont comment on that, just had to post and say how beautiful he is! :)
 
Appiano. I would explain but Google will chuck up a more coherent explanation than I could :)
I had one, he was a 'proper' skewbald at 2. Over the years he paled out but had definite darker spots on his now lighter bits, the Appiano trait.
 
He could still change, some take longer to colour cut than others, top is my lad, he went full leopard by the time he was 2, yet his half sister, that is 3 this year, and was born near leopard, is slowly colouring out... she might go full leopard like her mum... (who was born full leopard)

Harley
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Missy
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freckles22uk said:
He could still change, some take longer to colour cut than others, top is my lad, he went full leopard by the time he was 2, yet his half sister, that is 3 this year, and was born near leopard, is slowly colouring out... she might go full leopard like her mum... (who was born full leopard)

Harley
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Missy
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Eeee I love your horses Freckles22 - it's actually the pics from your blue eyes thread that got me thinking about my boys colour :) so interesting how they turn out eh?

Thank you to everyone else's comments, I know that he certainly won't be everyone's cup of tea but I'm biased and think he's appsolutely gorgeous! (Hangs head in shame at terrible pun)...

I really don't mind what colour he turns out as I bought him for his temperament but it is fun having a guess ;)
 
MasterBenedict said:
Eeee I love your horses Freckles22 - it's actually the pics from your blue eyes thread that got me thinking about my boys colour :) so interesting how they turn out eh?

Thank you to everyone else's comments, I know that he certainly won't be everyone's cup of tea but I'm biased and think he's appsolutely gorgeous! (Hangs head in shame at terrible pun)...

I really don't mind what colour he turns out as I bought him for his temperament but it is fun having a guess ;)
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aww thank you, I sold Missy and shes gone to a fab home here in Spain, and get regular update and pics, and with the genetics, I put Harley to a near leopard mare (appyxTB) I use to own, and they had a solid bay foal! not once but twice, the first one I still see (now 3) and is going to stay solid....

Well I think your lad is lovely... and like you, I didnt mind the colour as the temperament is fab in them.... Im sat here front door wide open, stallion is loose having a wander, and Ive just had to stop him from trying to come in the house!!
 
If you had no knowledge of your horse's breeding or parentage, is there any way of knowing what colour she would have been as a foal?
The horse in question is leopard spot, very similar to 'Harley' posted above, and she is not an Appy, nor a Knab.
 
Very beautiful! Through personal research I've found that they tend to 'white out' the older they get. I only have pictures of my mare when she was 2.5, no younger but as you can see it's clear that she had darker shoulders and rump and legs than now at 6 years old!

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Anything could happen!

We saw a registered part-bred gelding at a show who was bought as a solid coloured horse aged 11 and started to develop spots not long after the purchase - he was very obviously a spotted Appaloosa by then.
Our registered Appaloosa mare, aged 16, who has 2 leopard spotted parents is chestnut and has roaned out since we got her 7 yrs ago and has developed few random spots recently.
The first Appy mare we bought was leopard spot who got a paler and paler base-coat the older she got. (pics on YorksG's sig).
 
Even if you know the parents, it can still be a guessing game, friend put her Appy stallion, 'Magic Art' ( the dad to my Harley) to the same appy mare (a marble) 5 times and every foal was different, though all chestnut based...

Leopard with big spots
leopard with little spots,
Solid
chestnut with a small lacy blanket
chestnut with large white blanket...

Ive used the same stallion (a few spot) on my other mare,

first foal was a bay near leopard (that was the dad to Missy, in photo above and is the double of her)
and the 2nd, was a black leopard..

also if one of the parents is not and appy is a grey (a big no no in the Appy world to breed to a grey)... then you have high chance of getting a foal that carries they grey gene, often born highly spotted, but 'fades' as they get older like any grey and lose the spots..
 
freckles22uk said:
Even if you know the parents, it can still be a guessing game, friend put her Appy stallion, 'Magic Art' ( the dad to my Harley) to the same appy mare (a marble) 5 times and every foal was different, though all chestnut based...

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The breeders of our chestnut Appy mare have bred at least 5 foals from the same leopard spotted parents and got solid coloured foals every time, bay and chestnut. Ours is the oldest though, so they may all colour out at some time.

They have certainly had spotted foals from the stallion to other mares - not sure if the mare has ever had a spotted foal.
 
Jessi&Magic said:
Very beautiful! Through personal research I've found that they tend to 'white out' the older they get. I only have pictures of my mare when she was 2.5, no younger but as you can see it's clear that she had darker shoulders and rump and legs than now at 6 years old!

Ooooh she's gorgeous, just my type! Bet she is a nightmare to clean though!!

Such possibilities, genetics is such an interesting and variable subject :)
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Pearlsasinger said:
Anything could happen!

We saw a registered part-bred gelding at a show who was bought as a solid coloured horse aged 11 and started to develop spots not long after the purchase - he was very obviously a spotted Appaloosa by then.
Our registered Appaloosa mare, aged 16, who has 2 leopard spotted parents is chestnut and has roaned out since we got her 7 yrs ago and has developed few random spots recently.
The first Appy mare we bought was leopard spot who got a paler and paler base-coat the older she got. (pics on YorksG's sig).
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Wow, I didn't realise that spots could even develop that late, you learn something new every day ;)
 
Pearlsasinger said:
Anything could happen!

We saw a registered part-bred gelding at a show who was bought as a solid coloured horse aged 11 and started to develop spots not long after the purchase - he was very obviously a spotted Appaloosa by then.
Our registered Appaloosa mare, aged 16, who has 2 leopard spotted parents is chestnut and has roaned out since we got her 7 yrs ago and has developed few random spots recently.
The first Appy mare we bought was leopard spot who got a paler and paler base-coat the older she got. (pics on YorksG's sig).
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Wow! Was the gelding at the show a grey when purchased?
 
I have a spotty with werido colouring as well! He is near leopard spotted but has brown spots on his face and he gets more and more each year. He is very slowly greying out.

Row's face at 3 1/2 years:
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Row's face at 5 years:
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