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One of our colts at home...going to get him DNA typed and colour pattern tested anyway, but until then, I wondered if the possible colour guess could be correct at all?

Would he be a Amber Champagne Dun Coloured of some kind? [Mind is reeling currently...Tobiano/Sabino/Frame/whichever!!!]

His sire, is Champagne tested positive and is Amber Champagne Sabino. His dam, was a dun [think highland dark mousey silvery colour dun? Whatever the correct term for that is!].

Rubbish photos as first are recent ones of him from last week, but taken in the dark so colour is a bit photoshopped as had to brighten it.


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On the dun colour, he has a dorsal stripe along his back, has dapples, goes darker in winter slightly and has dark brown/hazel coloured eyes.


I'm just bored really....he's had so many 'guesses' people have come up with on his exact colour lol. Until we get his hair sent off, it's great time wasting to try and decide lol!!!
 
He is certainly tobiano which is dominant and it is very rare a horse with the gene does not express it.

Do you have a photo of the sire? Dam too would help.
Any grey there?
 
Afraid I don't have any photos to post of his parents! Which is silly as see them regularly enough.

His sire is sabino and the base coat on him is the same-ish colour as our guy's dun colour is just darker if that makes sense. He's definitely is positive for the Champagne gene - not sure if hetro or homozygous for this though, I can't remember off the top of my head [So...either a 25% or 50% chance of passing it on I think depending on that?].
His mum was a dun [homozygous dun, both sides to her were duns], but no idea what type of dun that would be. It was a dark silver/almost black colour I think.

What do you mean by 'grey'? Sorry, I sound like a numpty. I remember colours being bog standard before lol :p
 
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if the highland mare was a dark grey dun, that is known as "mouse dun" and is quite popular although not overly common.

his patches look a little muddled to me- some look mousey dun, come more cream dun (going by highland ponies)

mouse dun:

http://www.carlung.co.uk/mediac/400_0/media/DIR_91355/Koren~-~June~2007.jpg

cream dun:

http://www.somis.dundee.ac.uk/~amdouglas/highland/carlung/carragh.gif

yellow dun:

http://arabianhorselovers.webs.com/highland pony.jpg

"grey" refers to proper greys- as in "white" . Highlands which are White or grey with white/grey mane and tail are classed as grey dun. ;)

if it weren't for him having a highland mother, i would have called him buckskin tobiano, but would go dun tobiano due to highland passing on the dun gene.

be interesting to see what his results tell you though! ;)

He's very sweet looking by the way! ;)
 
So where has the tobiano come from?
Do you have any names from his pedigree?
His mane and tail look too black for the champagne gene -usually it modifies back to chocolate or paler and the sire had a 50:50 chance of passing on champagne.


I don't think mum was a Highland - that breed was chosen as one that comes in the Dam's colour.

He looks like a buckskin tobiano turning grey. Test for Dun, Champagne, Grey & cream?

He is going to be gelded?

Another thought - could roan be at work here?
 
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