Coloured stallions!

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Hi everyone, I'm looking for a quality lightweight coloured stallion 16hh + for my mare. Preferably I'd like to use a homozygous stalllion, but would also go for stallion throwing a high % of coloured foals to solid coloured mares. Amour G and Chess M www.stallionsonline.co.uk are two I quite liked the look off- any opinons or ideas welcome!
 
What about Multicolor II a Buckskin (Dun) and White German Warmblood standing in Lincolnshire Brackenspa stud looked at him for my mare but she is going to the Cremello some time this week! Fingers and toes are crossed that we will have a foal next year. Left her empty last year.
 
Again without seeing the mare, how can anyone make a judgement? The mare is your starting point she is the one that should be indicating the type of stallion you look for. If you know the breeding that is helpful too. There are more coloured stallions then there are good coloured stallions.
 
Lostock Huntsman?
Puts a lovely head and quality onto stock, so should be nice whatever colour you get. Also has the performance behind him.
JC
 
Sempers Spirit is one I am in love with!!!! Plus homozygous to boot.

Chess M is obviously homozygous.....jury is out on him for me though until I see some of his foals....excitedly looking out for them...think someone on here has some due by him as well...

Samaii....gorgeous!!!

I have seen quite a few Utah Van Erpekom foals and am not that impressed with them at all....I think he doesn't really stamp them other than if they get the colour of course.....and so a really quality mare is needed.

I LOVE Amour G...only thing form your POV is that he is not homozygous and as this is his first season at stud you don't really know what he throws yet. Gorgeous young stallion though!

Brendons has a gorgeous young coloured stallion called Nederland Esquire that I really like. In addition they have his older 1/2 brother by Caretino Glory who is throwing some very nice fine babies.
 
My mare is in foal to Chess M (due Mid May) The only one due for this year i believe...

Depending on how the foal turns out i am considering using either Chess M again or Sempetico or Goshka Ringo for this year. My mare seems to put her stamp on all her foals so i am just mainly going for colour over anything else!
 
Like they say this all depends on your mare, she is your starting point, you need to consider more than just bone, look at her weaknesses and chose a stallion that will hopefully improve on them.

I did come across this fellow, don't know him, but pedigree is amazing but I do like Specail D (Metal) also Gribaldi!! He's only 5 this year so not sure how many foals he'll have on the ground to look at percentages of coloureds. Take a look anyway!!
http://www.stallionsonline.co.uk/stallion_17031.html
 
I've seen sempers spirit in the flesh several times ....He is gorgeous
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I can vouch for both Sambertino and AmourG.
Sambertino lives here with us for the covering season and is a complete babe to have about,his stock need no intrduction they have been there and got the tee-shirt and AmourG well i have just waved at him as he drove out of the gate having just left after doing a collection he is super lad too with a lovely attitude to life and tremendous quality .
 
just put my mare into foal with country top dollar. The stud are fantastic and the horse is stunning. Great if you want a good allrounder.
 
I have used Sambertino and Samaii for this year, and Utah van Erpekom in the past. I strongly believe you should use horses with a performance based pedigree, as opposed to horses 'just' because they are coloured, and for me those are the ones which really fulfill my criteria.

Sambertino has a very impressive progeny record, and I believe Samaii will follow in his footsteps. I have one due from each of these stallions for 2009 - the Samaii baby is due any day.
 
thanks for all the ideas everyone- you've certainly givern me alot to think about! Sorry forgot my mares details: 15.3hh dark bay by Grannex (WB), her dam was a TBxID. Shes cci2star evented and BSJA grade B. I want to add height and refine her as shes chunky! I agree with you, I do not want to compremise on quality for the sake of colour- shes a really nice mare, whos retired through injury, so this is her first foal!
 
surprised no one has mentioned Vincent II from Millfield Stud, I love everything about this boy! Perhaps most imortantly I'd use him regardless of colour... conformation, movement and temperament all first rate from what I've seen, the fact he seems to throw a lot with colour is a bonus
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Think we should be looking beyond colour in our breeding attempts and ask ourselves whether they'd be our first choice if colour were not a consideration...

A friend of mine has a 2yr old by Vincent and she wouldnt mind me saying he's improved on the mare in every way, in particular it's penominal movement... oh yeh and it's coloured!

More info here

http://www.millfieldstud.co.uk/horses/vincentII.htm

Good luck and enjoy the process!
 
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surprised no one has mentioned Vincent II from Millfield Stud, I love everything about this boy! Perhaps most imortantly I'd use him regardless of colour... conformation, movement and temperament all first rate from what I've seen, the fact he seems to throw a lot with colour is a bonus
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Think we should be looking beyond colour in our breeding attempts and ask ourselves whether they'd be our first choice if colour were not a consideration...

A friend of mine has a 2yr old by Vincent and she wouldnt mind me saying he's improved on the mare in every way, in particular it's penominal movement... oh yeh and it's coloured!

More info here

http://www.millfieldstud.co.uk/horses/vincentII.htm

Good luck and enjoy the process!

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UCS Sempers Spirit is there at the moment too!
http://www.millfieldstud.co.uk/horses/spirit.htm
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Well two key points you have made, refine and add height, so most of the stallions mentioned should be crossed off your list straight away, as the more refining ones listed, will most likely not add height, or vise versa

Are you breeding for a nice all rounder or do you have a specific discipline in mind?

Of the stallions mentioned so far, I have used Ringo, Sempers Spirit, Samaii and Vincent II. I cant comment on the Sempers Spirit foals as they will not hit the ground for a week or two.

The Ringo foals have as a general rule been taller than the dams, good substance, invariably very good movers, tendancy to slightly shorter necks. he needs a mare with a good dose of blood in his pedigree, either TB or Trakehner

The Vincent filly was very smart, not as refined as I expected but her dam is a good big stamp of a mare, so the stallion cant work miracles. She is doing very well showing in hand and was a winner at the Futurity as a foal.

The Samaii foal was a huge big strapping filly, much more so than I expected from that cross, very attractive and a total sweetheart. Not as good moving as the other foals, but still very pleased with her.
 
Thats really intresting thanks Volatis
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. Yep my one worry was the few proven coloured stallions and the ones you've mentioned are not going to refine her enough
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! I'd like to breed an eventer/ allrounder type, but temp and conformation are my priorities. ummmm thinking I might be going down the TB route instead...!
 
If temperament and conformation are your priorities you could do a lot worse than using Masterpiece at Willesley stud in Gloucs. He's an angel and has shown very well so must also have good conf.
 
Have you thought about Visage van de Olmenhoeve?
www.copabellavisage.com

I have three by him and I have not been disappointed. Will he refine? Hmm, not sure about that. And height? Hmm, another tough one in that two of mine will end up taller than their dam and one will end up about .1hh shorter.

They are all lovely types -- and all three of mine are coloured. However, Visage is not homozygous. Would they suit eventing? I can honestly say that I think they would. None are heavy types. However, all are out of TB dams. I expect their heights to range from 16.1 to 16.3hh. They all have a lot of character. My eldest has around 8 feed bins. Why so many? She throws them around the paddock. I now feed her out of a tyre feeder with a large rubber mat (belting) affixed to the base to try and prevent her doing this. Though, after some months, she has now worked out how to flip it by not standing on the mat [sigh...]. And the colt as a foal was very playful and athletic ... well, have a look at the link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MYj023EmlM

And my other (the youngest by 2 weeks) is - unfortunately - incredibly accident prone with a loveable but strong character (possibly not for everyone) -- I believe her headstrong nature has been inherited from the dam though.

With Visage you really do get a good 50% of your mare, so you need to be genuinely happy in this regard. I always said that if I got a duplicate of my first mare I would be thrilled. Both foals from that mare have exceeded expectation, so I was thrilled and remain so. My only disappointment was that one was a colt and not a filly. He is now owned by Copabella Stud.

Visage is currently based in France -- I don't know if that would be an issue for you. Possibly not if travelling the AI route.

From the website:
There is some great footage of Visage at the stallion parade at St Lo in France in February. Go to www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf8SwilfQzU
Visage is currently based with Stephan Lafouge in Bordeaux. (Contact number: +33 6 075 731 92.) Stephan's agent is Severine Jaulent, who is currently based in England. (Contact number: +0044 7921 760 907.)
European Breeders please contact:
Groupe France Elevage - 14 Place du Paul German - 14700 FALAISE
Tel: +33(0)2 31 40 19 88
www.gfeweb.com
 
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