Competing with Injuries/Cuts

TPO said:
Well, if you look at the comments of adoration under her posts I think you've got your answer. Lots of replies from people finding him "trying on the lame act" hilarious and relatable?! We're doomed...

As an aside I'd never heard of her until this thread. I didn't look too hard but couldn't see a picture of the cut, however her whole attitude towards him "acting" lame is sickening. They don't act and if a horse presents lame its because something hurts.
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Well, our neighbours' dog always starts limping when their daughter comes to visit. He knows it will attract lots of attention and cuddles. He was genuinely lame from an infected cut just before she went to university last autumn.

I am not suggesting this is was what was happening but I sometimes think we underestimate animals.
 
The cut should certainly have been spotted in the dressage. As a dressage writer, I'd have expected the dressage judge to notice and if they didn't, I would have raised it with them.

Then called in an event steward to get the horse checked out after the dressage and before proceeding with the rest of the competition.
 
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ycbm said:
If people are social ìnfluencers making money or taking merchandise as payment out of that activity then why don't they just get named in posts when they do something like this?

I've gone cross country and hunted with what I deemed were acceptable wounds in acceptable places on horses. I'd need to know a lot more about that one before I could judge.
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On a recent thread someone had recommended a particular dealer and I replied saying that he'd appeared numerous times on Dodgy Dealers on FB and implied he wasn't and to check their information and I got an infraction from admin even thought I'd seen the dodger dealer called out on the dodgy dealer FB page, numerous times. So based on that, why would anyone bother? I didn't do it out of spite, I just didn't want the person being recommended when I'd been stung so badly myself by someone unrelated.
 
I think people are being unnecessarily bit**y on this thread.
That horse is not underweight in the latest video, he was in earlier posts so he has come on well.
When you go to a pt-to-pt, Badminton or other 4 stars and look at the horses untacked a lot are far more ribby than him. It's called fit!
I doubt that small nick caused him any pain, especially with the adrenaline up. And he is now happy in his field.
If you can't say anything nice don't say it.
Fair play for a 'warts and all' blog - how many of you only post 'perfect pictures'?
 
I don't follow her but I think we must be in a few of the same groups so Facebook has decided I want to see her posts. They're forever appearing in my feed. I don't think she's an influencer in the sense that she's not making money / getting freebies out of her posts but she does post a lot, possibly without really understanding the image she's portraying. She seems to spend a lot of time on the floor as well. I think she thinks it's funny. I admire her ability not to be knocked by all these falls, but it's definitely not for me. It's like a personalised sh***eventers unite.
 
stormox said:
I think people are being unnecessarily bit**y on this thread.
That horse is not underweight in the latest video, he was in earlier posts so he has come on well.
When you go to a pt-to-pt, Badminton or other 4 stars and look at the horses untacked a lot are far more ribby than him. It's called fit!
I doubt that small nick caused him any pain, especially with the adrenaline up. And he is now happy in his field.
If you can't say anything nice don't say it.
Fair play for a 'warts and all' blog - how many of you only post 'perfect pictures'?
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I’d say that was more than a small nick 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Nasicus said:
I think with all the time she's spent writing from 'his' perspective, she's mentally humanized him to herself, and genuinely thinks he thinks and acts with human logic.
Example, 'trying on the lame act'. Perhaps a human is capable of doing so, but a horse isn't. If a horse is lame, then something hurts. It's a testament to the horses nature that even though he told her 'Hey. my foot really hurts', he still soldiered on through the event for her.
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What you mean you don't make your horse go without its tea if its been naughty when it was ridden an hour before? ;)
The best one I heard was Arabs don't get laminitis. Now that made me smile.
 
Smogul said:
Well, our neighbours' dog always starts limping when their daughter comes to visit. He knows it will attract lots of attention and cuddles. He was genuinely lame from an infected cut just before she went to university last autumn.

I am not suggesting this is was what was happening but I sometimes think we underestimate animals.
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Yes but in this case she seems to be suggesting that the horse links being lame with stopping work. So shouldn't she be listening to why it feels that way?
 
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marmalade76 said:
She was on the back foot trying to sort it whilst riding in not much more than a headcollar. You need to pick your battles.
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but this isn't the first time the horse has legged it/ditched her/behaved in a completely unsafe way on the roads so WHY is she riding bitless? stupid reckless behavior all done for laughs and FB likes......

she is clearly petrified of him out hacking and making the situ worse both long and short term so stop paying for shows and start paying for help?
 
Hallo2012 said:
but this isn't the first time the horse has legged it/ditched her/behaved in a completely unsafe way on the roads so WHY is she riding bitless? stupid reckless behavior all done for laughs and FB likes......

she is clearly petrified of him out hacking and making the situ worse both long and short term so stop paying for shows and start paying for help?
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I don't know how much difference a bit would have made tbh. I'm pretty sure in the video she goes back to the yard, puts a bit in his mouth and tries again which is when she goes into the ditch?

Either way, she seems to be taking a more sensible approach since, going out with company etc so credit where its due.
 
smolmaus said:
I don't know how much difference a bit would have made tbh. I'm pretty sure in the video she goes back to the yard, puts a bit in his mouth and tries again which is when she goes into the ditch?

Either way, she seems to be taking a more sensible approach since, going out with company etc so credit where its due.
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he ends up in the ditch because she's set him up to fail by going out bitless initially, shrieking and shouting at him, doing nothing to encourage him and build confidence and by the time she swaps to a proper bridle its all but a lost battle anyway. So the whole thing is a massive negative experience.

as someone who does loads of riding/sorting out horses who have lost their way this just frustrates me to death. No logical, or planned training just winging it at the horses expense.
 
I kind of get the ditch thing, I think she’s local to ‘home’ and it is a horrible feeling thinking you might go backwards into one they can’t even see. It was at least one they could get out of.

I wouldn’t post my don’t take another step backwards you idiot, told you should listen instead of be a tit about the plastic bag conversation with my pony on the internet though ;) I’d be aware it wasn’t ideal but an in the moment reaction 😅.
 
stormox said:
I think people are being unnecessarily bit**y on this thread.
That horse is not underweight in the latest video, he was in earlier posts so he has come on well.
When you go to a pt-to-pt, Badminton or other 4 stars and look at the horses untacked a lot are far more ribby than him. It's called fit!
I doubt that small nick caused him any pain, especially with the adrenaline up. And he is now happy in his field.
If you can't say anything nice don't say it.
Fair play for a 'warts and all' blog - how many of you only post 'perfect pictures'?
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BBM - It's not a small nick that bled a lot, it's a deep wound that the horse was lame from. You can clearly see it has depth to it in a poor quality photo uploaded to social media.

I completely agree with moving along if you have nothing nice to say, but not at the detriment to animal welfare. It's not being b*tchy to call abuse, abuse. Riding a lame horse is abuse. The rider clearly states the horse was lame.

I would not have competed that horse with that wound and it's really sad that anyone would defend the riders decision to do so.
 
Lottie came in on a competition day with missing skin on her leg, presumably from a kick. It did not even bleed but the idea of her jumping worried me. I trotted her up and asked for advice. I was told she was fine and to crack on. So when I saw this thread I felt a prickle of guilt, wondering if the cut would look similar. I was NOT expecting to see something looking like that. It is not a nick or a graze. It's a gaping wound. It needed to be cleaned and the horse needed to be rested a) till sound and b) till the wound healed over so there was no longer an infection risk. It did not need to be jumped over solid fences it might hit and gallop through dirty water on a XC course. The fact that this view-point even needs defending , or that expressing is it seen as hateful, strikes me as bizarre. Isn't your horse being more or less uninjured and apparently sound a fairly basic minimum for competing in an ODE? This person is highly influential and invites followers on her 'journey'. So it is reasonable to call out poor decisions, poor horsemanship and poor judgement.
 
equinerebel said:
BBM - It's not a small nick that bled a lot, it's a deep wound that the horse was lame from. You can clearly see it has depth to it in a poor quality photo uploaded to social media.

I completely agree with moving along if you have nothing nice to say, but not at the detriment to animal welfare. It's not being b*tchy to call abuse, abuse. Riding a lame horse is abuse. The rider clearly states the horse was lame.

I would not have competed that horse with that wound and it's really sad that anyone would defend the riders decision to do so.
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No she doesnt. I read it as a joke about the horse trying to get out of work. She makes similar jokes all the time. I don't find her funny but others obviously do. What is certain is that nothing is clear about it when taken in the context of her other posts.

After giving it a good clean and making sure I was still ok to ride (honestly I TRIED the lame act, but she saw through me!), we ran over to STRESSAGE!
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There is no mention of lameness or irregular steps on the accompanying dressage sheet, so clearly the judge didn't think the horse was lame either.
 
Dexter said:
No she doesnt. I read it as a joke about the horse trying to get out of work. She makes similar jokes all the time. I don't find her funny but others obviously do. What is certain is that nothing is clear about it when taken in the context of her other posts.



There is no mention of lameness or irregular steps on the accompanying dressage sheet, so clearly the judge didn't think the horse was lame either.
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Yes, she does. The horse scored lower than expected and was eventually eliminated on the xc. The rider very obviously says he was presenting lame, she personally wrote it off as him trying it on.

I honestly don’t know why this is being debated. It is clearly a deep wound and the rider admitted to the horse being lame. It doesn’t matter how she wrote it, the facts are the facts.

Whether you’d push on and compete a horse with that type of wound is the question being asked.
 

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