completely new to BS. advise would be much appreciated.

lisabethm

lisabethm

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Hi all. My daughter has decided to make the step from RC and PC showjumping to BS. As a newcomer to this level of SJ much needed help and advise as to where we start would be so much appreciated.
She's 16 and riding a 16.2 just 6yo WB cross, so I'm told has to do seniors. Obviously we need to register them both with BS, do I also need to have the mares passport overstamped at this stage? Are there restrictions with tack/boots on the horse etc, whose currently quite leggy, so in bell boots, tendon and fetlock boots, also what classes does she start with? We have a centre who hold BS events 5 minutes from us, so we want to make the most of it while they find their feet. :-)
 
Hi,
I'm not sure if you know but if she is a member of a RC, then BS were doing great membership deals for horse and rider, so worth checking that out.
If the horse hasn't been registered before I believe the passport has to go to the BS office, but not 100% on this as have not had to register a new horse for some time.
Its probably worth going to the centre to watch a show to see the level required, but I would imagine she would start at British Novice - if the horse is eligible ie low winnings/points.
You will get access to the rule book but what you mention are allowed. You will find the restrictions are not as strict as PC.
And finally, best of luck and have fun !
 
thank you :-)
Will take her along to watch and see what she thinks, whether to give her another year or not, don't want to knock her confidence, being a baby still.
 
Hi! Yes, your passport will have to be over stamped, give them a ring if you're unsure of anything & they'll go through it all with you.
You can wear tendon & fetlock boots etc but there are restrictions on type etc for certain classes (age classes, Newcomer/Foxhunter 2nd rounds) so have a read through your rule book (make sure to request one as I'm not entirely sure they're sent out as standard these days but I could be wrong!)!
I'd say to start at British Novice & Discovery & see how you get on. There are lots of variations of height at the lower end (1m or 1.05m opens etc) so they'll have plenty to go at. A lot of venues run a clear round at British Novice height which might be useful if they want a look round first.
It is a bit of a minefield rule wise - they keep changing them so most of us are rather confused on a daily basis!! I'd say keep a record of all their placings/double clears & winnings as they are often behind in updating your records (although they are catching up a bit more now)!
My advice would be to go & enjoy yourselves, if you get into it then you need to learn about points & leagues but until they get confident don't worry about all that!
I'd also say be aware that if the classes are busy (presuming you are her chief groom/fence doer!!) you have to be assertive in the collecting ring, just because someone thinks they're important don't let them bully you into putting a fence up/down! Bare in mind that people with 'a name' are not adversed to pushing in above your declared number, keep an eye on the board!
If you're unsure try going to a show mid week as it's not as busy! You can do a couple of classes on a ticket to see if she is ok before you register.
Don't let my advice put you off - it's great fun, just more serious than PC/RC as these days it seems the majority of people are in it to produce horses & not as a hobby. Don't get me wrong, there are still a few of us that just want a successful day out & some chips!! :D
If you're on Facebook have a look at UKSJ Forum, there's always something to learn from there (or giggle at)!
Give it a go, they'll enjoy it! :)
 
There is also BS club classes which are smaller than BN and Disco that i think are a minimal registration fee.
 
Would echo the advice above - try a couple of classes on a ticket first to see if your daughter enjoys it, it's often not the height of the fences but the width and some of the more technical questions that are different to u/a. There is a deal for new members who are members of a PC or RC so that makes it a bit cheaper. Your horse will also have to be microchipped if it's never been registered before which can add to the expense so any money saved is welcome. Have fun!
 
Thanks. I'm a bit of an everything for her these days, so will bear the advice re pushing in and fences in mind! Not sure what you mean by jumping on a ticket? Do I go through bs for that or arrange it with the centre?
 
You pay for the ticket at the centre when you enter your class. Most centres offer this, so that you can just be a member for the day. Sometimes its free but mostly it costs about £6 on top of the class entry fee.
 
I do not know what area you are from but each County or small area has an Area Representative. If you go to BS web site and click on 'membership' then select 'Area Information' and then 'Area Reps' you will be able to scroll down until you find your own area. The Area Rep should be able to guide you through everything. I think you will also find your local show centre will help you with what classes etc.

Good luck and I hope you all have great fun.
 
Where are your local centres? If your local ones do "club" classes, I think that might be a good introduction. Club membership is about £30 for the year, the club classes have a points league etc. Start at 70cm I think!

If there isn't many venues which do these newer bs club shows, or you decide to go for "normal" membership, the amateur series of classes starts at 85cm. She could do any amateur classes. "National" classes, for example british novice (90cm), discovery (1m), newcomers (1.10) are done on a points basis for the horse. So once a horse starts winning/placing, it is awarded points, and there are limits to how many points you can have a compete in certain classes- ie british novice is for horses with less than 125 points (I think it's 125....!)
The "amateur" classes all have amateur in the title on a schedule, and these are open to anyone outside the top 250/200 odd listed riders, hence your daughter could do these, but they are open to any horse regardless of points. These classes go on rider qualifications rather than horse ones as it were!

Regarding qualifying for champs etc..... A 1-6th place in an amateur first round class would get you qualified for the second round. You'd then get two slips of paper through the post meanin you could enter "second rounds", and 1-8th would get you qualified for the final. The first rounds run all year, second rounds are sept to nov. And the finals at end of November.

The national classes- four double clears at each height, so four DC in British novice in an April-April period would qualify you for second rounds, also known as regionals. You can enter two regionals (usually early summer late spring). A 1-2 (maybe third now?) placing at a regional or a treble clear (two jump offs) would qualify you for the final at the scope championships in August.
You can also qualify for scope by doing special qualifiers, and getting placed in those.

The classes and competitions section of the website is very helpful.

Enjoy!
 
Thanks.
This is all taking some digesting, but will get there. We live within area 16, only 5 minutes drive from speetley ec at Barlborough, do we compete in the area we live or can we cross to others as well? As we're on the borders of both 21 and 23, which will broaden our options for club shows
 
You dont need to be a club member to jump club classes, they are open to all, just if you want points and to qualify you need to be a member. Some centres also do clear round first. You dont have to compete in your region. I am right on the border of 3 regions, if I drive a mile in any direction from my house I swap.
 
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