Confidence over fillers

leflynn

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I don't often post on here, I'm a good ole lurker usually ;) I'm come out from the shadows for some ideas please...

I've got an ex racer who is 10 but he is a bit green due to restarting again a couple of years ago following a loooong period of box rest, he is a darling to have around, we do a spot of BD prelim soon to move up to novice, have done a few hunter trials and a bit of showjumping and a couple of unaff ODE, we've hunted, hack alone in company all in a snaffle.

Our current issue - related to jumping, he is absolutely fine doing SJ when there are no fillers just poles and will bob round a course, not touch a thing and be a dude (only about 75/80cm). Add in fillers and its like there are sudden monsters going to nip his little hooves off..... It is partly confidence as we don't have many scary looking fillers at home and partly him being a total ninny (I think), we can usually get over fillers first time if they are pulled out so there is a gap, it involves an awful lot of kicking from me as he backs off and is as stubborn as a mule. We have already solved the red and white pole problem by repatedly jumping them and trotting over them (he abjectly refused to jump red and white poles at one point, no idea why as all other colours were fine)

My lovely instructor says go places, jump stuff and get some experience so we are :D Another jump instructor thinks he is 'special' and advises the same (she walked him/us up to a filler and jumped back 3 feet without even touching it). He is better XC, we went to an XC arena clinic and he only stopped at one jump as he wasn't concentrating.... Didn't bat an eye at the round blue roll tops, the skinny, the chair...

Any top tips or exercises I can do at home/away? The usual back/teeth/saddle checked on a regular basis, no change to energy levels/feed - also not a new problem he has never really liked fillers. I've started lunging him over jumps that have barrels/cones underneath to try and get a bit of confidence on his own, but again we're having stops, he does usually jump on the 2nd or 3rd attempt when he's had a look, he refuses to walk over jumps and occasionally I can get him to jump from a standstill. He is also worse indoors - he was the same for dressage when we first starting doing DR outings, but isn't now bothered. To be fair he has improved, 18 months ago went to an SJ comp, he warmed up beautifully outside, even popped a 75cm then went in to do the 55cm and refused to jump anything and wouldn't even walk over a pole (he swings himself level with the jump/pole and plants) - so we are making progress albeit slowly, on the plus side my legs always get a good workout when we jump!

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hunting pony by Laura, on Flickr
 
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I am currently working with my young mare on this issue, I am free jumping her at home in the manage, or on the lunge (if there's any chance they can run out) over pretty much anything and everything I can find, old tyres, banners that people discard, water butts for barrels, cone's (oops don't tell the highway agency where I got those from), my coat or her rugs draped over poles and some proper fillers that I have bought. So far it's doing the trick, I just lunge her over scary stuff once or twice a week and she's becoming much better, a real difference in her and think it's easier for them to get to grips with sometimes when there is no rider on board to complicate matters. Just time and patience, once my mare is completely confident (and she is almost there), then I'll get in the saddle and point her at a few :D Hope this helps :D
 
Yes I've started doing this too so I'll keep going, best drag some more scary things up from the shed at the bottom of the yard!
 
My TB could be a bit like that. I found a venue where they had small fillers and generally entered the 80 or 85 (no point going smaller on her as she'd start to hurdle them), and work on the just keep kicking principle as at that height she was quite capable of jumping it from a trot, so if she started backing off I'd just keep my leg on and her moving forwards, she wasn't allowed to stop, she could wiggle but had to go over. When we went back in for the 2nd bigger class she would have seen everything and jump around without batting an eyelid.
Like yours she looked at less when XC but I always put that down to her being more bold when travelling at speed - she rarely if ever stopped when she was more forward, but in SJ we ask them to slow down and get on their hocks more, and for some I think it gives them too much time to go waaaah that's scary, so rather than going round at XC speed I just dropped down the height for the first class and worked on FORWARD no matter how much they're spooking.

Hope that makes sense?
 
Should also say - I tend to work on the trust principle - we do a lot of "silly" things that mean that she trusts when I say it's ok to go somewhere then that's what we do - so out hacking we go in or over puddles, streams, a bit of disused canal that involves some steep banks, through a random bit in the hedge... whatever we come across really. So then (hopefully) she trusts me when I say there's no monsters over there! She's allowed a look, but if I say we're going forward/through/over, then that's what we do.
 
They sound very similar! He has always been a bit 'yikes whats that, I'm going out of here fast backwards' When I brought him back into work it took me an hour and half at times to get off the yard down the hill with lots of sitting facing the wrong way in the wrong place so he has always been a stubborn little git (his full sister is apparently exactly the same). I never avoid things he doesn't like eg wheelie bins, puddles, logs.... I did a spooking clinic with Gemma Pearson and that helped us a lot tbh, I did once get 48% in an intro test as he spooked at the judges car, almost did the spilts by halting and proceeded to think it was going to kill him.

Brave as you like xc as long as it's a plainish fence, prefers solid things you can't see through! Not phased by water now or ditches thankfully and we regualrly go playing jumpies in the woods without the blink of an eye, tbh its his fave thing...

He is getting better at being more forward and actually going over things even if he doesn't like it, just frustrating as he has plenty of ability, just a noggin with it! Thankfully once he cottons onto to something itsnormally locked in even if it takes a long time to get there, would just like ot get the habit of the dead stop from nowhere out of him next, he has even gone to lift his front legs to jump and plonked them back down and stopped at fences, at leat we have also gotten over the 15 fence rule where once he'd jumped 15 or so fences he'd start stopping even if he'd jumped them before, good job I love him!! :D Good to hear I'm not the only one plugging away...
 
Oh her favourite maneuver if she really didn't like it was fake takeoff, drop shoulder and spin resulting in me flying through the air x-(
My trainer couldn't believe that at 17hh and the length of a bus she could spin quite so quickly! She soon learnt that all that earned her was a smacked ar*e and having to do it again. As she did more it improved and as she got stronger in herself she seemed to become braver but it did take time :)
 
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