confused! breed or colour?!

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sorry if this is a stupid question, but i thought a spotted pony was a colour not a breed? can someone clear this up for me??


the whole palomino thing confuses me too sometimes...it is a colour but why do so many people think of it as a breed. sorry ive got my blonde head on today. x
 
Good question. The books confuse me as one says colour another says breed.... would like to see the answer of this... will stay tuned..
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Like Clodagh, all colours, hybrids, and slight variations are breeds in america! xD

However, there is a British Spotted pony (shelty type) and an American Spotted pony (lighter). You can also get an appaloosa coloured pony. This is just the colour. It's sire and dam could be any breed(that carries the spotted gene).

There is also an American Creme, an Appaloosa, a Paint, a Pinto, a Araloosa, a Pintabian, and an Angloarab. All shown as breeds. Phew xD Oh, don't forget the Gypsy Vanner! (a piebald cob, but with that breed name and worth about 10 times as much)
 
Not true I'm afraid.
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Appaloosa's are a breed and it is totally irrespective of their colour - you get solid coloured Appaloosa's. APHA's are a breed; again regardless of colour - you get solid coloured APHA's. AngloArab's are a breed also and can be registered in exactly the same way here as they are in the UK. All of these breeds have breed registries.

Pinto, "Arabaloosa", "Pintarabian's" are not breeds and do not have breed registries and they are certainly not shown as breeds. Pinto is a colour and the other two examples you used as crossbreeds.
 
Not true I'm afraid.
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Appaloosa's are a breed and it is totally irrespective of their colour - you get solid coloured Appaloosa's. APHA's are a breed; again regardless of colour - you get solid coloured APHA's. AngloArab's are a breed also and can be registered in exactly the same way here as they are in the UK. All of these breeds have breed registries.

Pinto, "Arabaloosa", "Pintarabian's" are not breeds and do not have breed registries and they are certainly not shown as breeds. Pinto is a colour and the other two examples you used are merely crossbreeds.
 
I've never known what the best answer to this is but it might come from defining what a breed is because most people seem to agree on what are colours. I suppose by definition a breed is the result of breeding but I've heard the view that "A breed exists when it has a breed society"which seems fair enough. My definition would be something like "A breed is defined by the presence of characteristics that have been obtained by selective breeding over several generations and are not observed routinely in the progeny of other members of the same species."

I suppose that means that if you bred horses to be palamino in colour and wiped out recessive genes for other coat colours in the stock you would then have a palamino breed....
 
Yes an Appaloosa is a breed, with its own societies,
if a pony is spotted, then you might say its a leopard spot pony, OR a blanket spot pony etc.. its NOT an Appaloosa, same if a donkey/mule was spotted, that would not be an appaloosa either. and not all spotted horses are appys either, a lot are cross breeds.
ie; an everyday bay horse is not a 'Cleaveland Bay' because of its colour
 
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