Contribution from sharer

somethingorother said:
Apart from that in real life in contrast with riding school life, there is not always a horse to ride due to various common reasons, which sometimes require you to keep paying for a horse you cannot ride. Also there are commonly (though granted not always) jobs involved which are not at a riding school.

Having part care and responsibility for a horse is not like turning up for a lesson and then leaving it all behind immediately after.
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I think any intelligent agreement could cover those occasions and the price can reflect the jobs involved. Riding school life doesnt allow sometimes unlimited riding, jumping, schooling etc. It is still a perfectly reasonable base to start from and I have certainly been very irritated when a Mum who is paying £25 per week minimum for her daughter to ride expects said daughter and daughters friend (who is also paying £25 per week!) to share a horse for £15 between the 2! Thats when the comparison kicks in and reasonably so IMO!
 
I think a tenner a week is a good amount. I pay 25 a week for my share, but tbh im paying for flexibilty more than anything else, and the arrangement we have works for me and the owner perfectly. My share ned is unshod, but if she were to need shoes i would have to pay half. So i think 10 pound a week plus half shoes would be about the right amount. But it really depends on how much you like her, and if she can offer you what you want. Make it clear from the outset how much you expect her to pay / how often you would like her to ride / its so much easier when everyone knows where they stand right from the beginning.

Hope she works out for you xx
 
Nigsha said:
I think any intelligent agreement could cover those occasions and the price can reflect the jobs involved. Riding school life doesnt allow sometimes unlimited riding, jumping, schooling etc. It is still a perfectly reasonable base to start from and I have certainly been very irritated when a Mum who is paying £25 per week minimum for her daughter to ride expects said daughter and daughters friend (who is also paying £25 per week!) to share a horse for £15 between the 2! Thats when the comparison kicks in and reasonably so IMO!
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Cheeky is cheeky, comparison or no.
 
I had a share for about 18mths where I paid half the livery, was on part livery so didn't have to muck out or anything, just go bring in or turn out once a day and ride. I paid £100pm, until my financial situation changed and I explained I would have to give up the share, as gutted as I was the mortgage had to come first! The owner said she wanted me to continue the share and she would cover all costs (wouldn't even accept a contribution to shoes or anything, so I bought little tack bits and pieces as required as she couldn't refuse that once it was bought lol) as she just appreciated my help and knew I did a good job of ensuring her horse was much loved and ridden properly.

Unfortunately, she moved to another county and off he went with her. He was a wonderful horse and I missed him terribly. It was also a brilliant share relationship based on trust and honesty, especially as we were complete strangers to each other at the beginning! I appreciate not everyone is as lucky as I was, or my sharing owner was but here's a bit of hope for you that there are good honest people still out there! YO was often about and a strict instructor type who took no messing, so she did have reassurance if I'd done anything untoward I'd have had a severe telling off and probably lost my share through word of mouth!

I then rode two horses for a lady who wanted shoes for one horse paying for which I thought veery reasonable, but she didn't need my help and mucked me about a fair bit so it ended pretty quickly.

Now I effectively have a horse on loan 80-85% of the time whilst the wealthy owners are at work in London in the week and away frequent weekends. They cover all costs including reimbursing me for any tack etc I purchase. It's not without issues but on the whole I shouldn't complain.

You need to get this lady up on your horse to try it first and then discuss your arrangements to suit both accordingly I would suggest. The more open and honest both parties are initially can set the whole tone of the share I think. IMO a tenner a week is reasonable. Good luck!
 
I think this depends on who is doing who the service. If she is hacking for your benifit and riding the horse you want her to ride when you want her to ride it I think you should be paying her, or she should not contribute finiacally at all. She's doing a grooms job. On the other hand if she is sharing a horse which means she can ride it when ever she wants in the times allocated and once you satisfied she is a competant rider she can ride without you then she should pay towards keep/shoes, which depanding on how often she rides and the amount of chores she does should be agreed mutually.
I had a sharer for my daughters horse and I was just glad they were reliable, rode well and gave me a couple of days off. No money was ever exchanged and I did not intefere with what they did once I knew they were sensible.
 
I would agree with 1/2 cost of shoes - the terminology ' sharer' is someone that can actually enjoy the horse other than just riding, also hack out alone etc.

You are lucky they are happy to contribute most people have to pay to have their horses exercised.......
 
SuzySue said:
Ooh, I would hate to work out what each one costs me per week!!! I think I would rather not know, lol :-) Especially at this time of year!

Shoes are £65 every 6 weeks so I'd be happy with £10 a week and if she offers more then great. I asked cos £5 seems too cheap but wasn't sure if £10 was asking too much.

Thanks guys, let's see what happens.
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I wouldn't be asking for anything at all, its sounds like you need the help more than she needs the ride!
 
My friend has an arrangement that the girl can ride whenever she wants and asks for her to pay for her shoes, wormer and a bag of feed once a month?

It depends if you want the cash or for your friend to pay for horsey bills when they come in?

Just make sure that they stick around long enough to pay for the goods though...you don't want her to have 6 weeks of free riding and then she gives up?!!?

I have a girl who helps me out but i don't charge her anything as i just need the help and her reward to to ride but if your not asking for help around the yard then i think £15 - £20 a week would be around the going rate.

A half hour private lesson at the local riding school is £15, 1hr hack is £20 so your friend paying £20 a week and riding 3 or 4 times is a bargain?
 
I don't think it matters who is doing who the favour....you are still letting someone else ride your horse, a valuable comodity, and therefore it is only reasonable to expect a financial contribution.

Lets face it, most people want a sharer as it helps them out, whether that is in time or money is not the issue.

And most sharer's want to share as they don't want the responsbility of a horse full time, can't afford to buy one, dont have the time etc etc...

So it helps both people out.

Around here, going rate is about £25 a week for 2/3 days though if I was only asking for hacking, I would reduce that. So I think £10 a week is fair.
 
Nigsha said:
If the horse was lame etc I wouldnt feel comfortable about charging.
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Yeah it does get a bit more tricky then, but could be arranged so that if there was a problem with the horse and you couldn't ride then you didn't have to pay, but if it was the sharer that couldn't make it then they would have to pay? It just means that then the sharer has incentive to go, even if weather is bad etc.
 
It depends on which is more important to you, the financial contribution or the exercising, some people share their horses only because they need the money. If you only want your horse exercising then the person doing it is in effect, working for you.

I have shared my horse before and I did this because I needed my horse exercising because I did not have the time to do it myself. I did not require any help to look after him though. To me, having someone experienced, kind, reliable and trustworthy, who would not do anything that I would'nt do and would treat my horse, tack and YO/YO's yard with respect - this to me was far more important than any financial contribution.

If you do charge, IMO £10 is fine, £5 is hardly worth it, you may as well charge nothing.
 
Thanks for all your different viewpoints. She has offered £10 per ride, which is what she has paid previously, and I am happy with this. She wants to ride once, maybe twice a week, but some weeks has to work abroad so will not be riding. She doesn't want to muck out at all but that is fine with me.

We seem to be on the same wavelength so will just have to see how it works out.

Thanks everyone :-)
 
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