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123o123

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Basically my 13.2hh pony is a bit on the chubbly side at the moment, so i will explain to you why i need your help.
-She is a very good doer and shutting her away increases her obsession for food(grass)
- Muzzling she gets very silly with when you put it on and will throw her self around to the point where she is danger to both her self and me while putting it on
-She will jump clear over the 5ft electric fencing (which incidently is strong enough to hold tigers in :D ) if she has been stabled for a couple of hours all she thinks about is her stomach
-We have wooden fencing sectioned areas which stand around 5'4'' which she will jump if she is shut in there baring in mind she is accompanied with my not so good doer WB (who hasnt got the capabilityto jump with her :P )
-She is worked about 45-1hour a day which is about 60% canter or streneous work.

So what do you think i should do any ideas ?????
 
Stick this on the vet forum pronto. Can't find the thread but someone had a similiar problem and her mare was guzzling food/straw etc and it was suggested that she had a condition caused by the sugar in the grass - which meant the horse just kept eating. There is a name for this condition, can't remember it but the post was recent..
 
What sort of muzzle?

I ask because my loan pony originally had a bucket type which he hated and was in a foul mood in so we quickly stopped using it. He's now in a Greenguard (which I know a lot of people don't get on with) and he gets on tremendously with it. He's very happy, practically puts it on himself in the mornings so he can go out. He's def lost weight in it, his appetite has lessened to some extent and he now takes his time with his hay, instead of inhaling it, and often has a reasonable amount left in the morning. Worth a go?
 
Have you tried the usuals?
Double netting hay nets
Hifi lite feed (if fed - sorry I can't remember what I read :rolleyes:)
Half hay half straw nets
And someone once told me (I don't know how true it is) that trot work is the best way to get them working properly with lots of transitions and exercises such as circles figure of 8s etc :)

Hope you find a way of taming your stomach orientated equine!
 
More work, for a start off, IMHO. If she was mine, I'd try to find the time to hack her for a couple of hours per day at weekends and increase her work in the week. If you school for, say, 45 mins, then hack for a further 30-45 mins afterwards at least.

In all honesty I would attach electric fence posts to the top of your P&R then put tape through (lots of strands) so she has not only the 5ft high P&R but 5ft of electric fencing too. That should keep her in!!

Bring her in during the day and give her adlib soaked hay - make sure it is soaked for minimum 12 hours. She may not like soaked hay initially but if she is hungry, she will eat it. Soaking it overnight should remove pretty much all of the nutritional value so it will purely keep her occupied and her gut moving without adding any calories. Small holed hay nets, small nets spaced out through the day so she can't guzzle it all in one go.
 
Umm, tricky one.
Apart from putting (round pen) fence panels to create a smaller patch, all I can muster up is tethering her - which I personally don't agree with.
Electric tape another strand on top of your fence so its 6ft high??

Whatever you do, good luck.
 
Hahah Other than her her stomach led problems i adore her bearing in mind she gets only a chaff and handful of nuts

narkymare
My guys are out 24/7 on bare paddocks and i would prefer her out as she is not one to stand in a stable all day as i have unreliable working hours and am my horses sole carers

Bay_beasty
-No lucky not lami prone thank god, so lucky about that :D She is a highly strung chubly pone and yes anything we do competition wise is SJ based. We've SJ up to 3'6'' courses im 5'4'' and cant affiliate her as im to old but id love to see her go for it and now shes sadly gonna have to be sold which is why i want to roll a little bit of chub off :D

Hattiehorse
-OMG i didnt think of that *rings up vet to find out if they can do a gastric band large enough*

Ali2
-Tried all the muzzles i have seen had the greenguard but she managged to get out of that daily and same reaction she is extremly intelligent and if she can see it there is no way your gonna get it on her without a fight :(

Kellysheroes
- Dosnt gget hay or straw bedding as not stabled, as it tends to send her into a frenzy when she gets out as she will jump out into other bits and will eat and eat
- We do a lot of transition work as it is my pet hate to have nnot well done transitions a lot about 40% of what we do is trot work, we do very little wlaking work out of the warm up and down
 
Hmmmm...:confused:
I guess the only things you could try would be to attempt to calm her down whilst she's muzzled? Our girl (lami prone) got her muzzle off regularly until someone on here suggested a plait in the front of her mane around the head band and it works like a dream!
Or up her workload...
 
chesnut cob
Its hard to increase her work load to much due to a large amount of work hours and have tried with the whole electric fending saga it got to the point where there was an obstacle course starting about 5m away from the actual fence :D but she would still get her way out which is highly irritating. During winter she would with her rug on wait for the dips in power and get out that way but thank god with no rugs now has a little more respect for the fencing. The problem with her escaping is only when shes been stabled/in an enclosed space she just loses it :P The paddock she is in is bare pretty much

Ruthnmeg
Shes a very distructive pone and at the moment is liking taking P + R out the ground which is highly irritating as we have seperate areas but she destroys them very quickly and problem is getting them back in the ground
 
Its not so much the getting the muzzle off its getting it on thats the problem as she becomes very silly and is a danger to herself and me :D

Again work constrains this and so does the hard ground as we dont have a surface to school on
 
123o123 said:
Its not so much the getting the muzzle off its getting it on thats the problem as she becomes very silly and is a danger to herself and me :D

Again work constrains this and so does the hard ground as we dont have a surface to school on
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Our girl was the same :( she used to throw her head around when we put the muzzle on and stamp her feet in protest! We just had to persevere and even now she'll allow the muzzle on, but she will rub and headbutt us all the way to the field trying to get it off. The minute she's let loose she rolls and rubs her head on the floor - but the plait has put a stop to that! :p
 
She will rear o n top of you and push you around i will get it on every single time but its so pointless to be waring for a good 20 mins over it every single day we did this for about two weeks and it didnt really improve any its the only time her manners just seem to disappear into a puff of blu smoke
 
I want her she sounds awesome, and our fields are bare crisp so it wouldn't matter. All i cn say was when I had my lovely D here and I had loverly lush grass due to careful rotation and lots of well times fertiliser, my little 12hh welshie with lami had a cob sized (yes too big but it didnt rub) grazing muzzle with an extra large whole as I made it bigger. She also jumped 4ft3 electric fencing and left my WBxTB on the other side panicing due to his loss of friend (even though he could quite easily jump that high he just was not very clever). then she had big fields to roam in and D had all the grass he could want and she didnt rub her face raw as the muzzle was flapping round her nose but she couldnt get it off.
 
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