Cooked bone: dog died

Cinnamontoast

Cinnamontoast

Fais pas chier!
Joined
6 July 2010
Messages
38,508
Visit site
Cross posting from another forum. Also in Soapbox.


dog bones
I hope this is ok to post, a friend has asked me to post on here as this happend to someone she knew.

hello i hope u dont mind me posting my story on here but i need to warn people of what can happen, 3 days ago a `tasty ham bone` was bought out of the pet section in wilkos for my dog, this bone splintered and he had to have an operation to remove all the splinters, because it had compacted in his intestine his body had become very weak so they had to build him up before they operated, the op luckily went well but he had a cardiac arrest 24 hrs later, before this he was a lovable healthy 8 year old dog, we lost him for no reason, wilkos have been informed, there answer to this is there is a small print note saying to supervise your dog when he eats it cos it may fragment, they still continue to sell it, not all of there bones carry warnings and having spoke to other people i have since found there are problems with a few of there bones and treats, i gave my dog his bone in good faith it was safe as bought as a proper dog treat.

THANK YOU FOR READING.... PLEASE SHARE.... x x x x

The person to whom this happened has also posted. :(
 
This is quite awful and I can see why people do this if its in the pet treat section.

The only ready made treat I give my dogs are pigs ears under supervision everything else is crap in my opinion.
 
I have to admit to leaving mine for half an hour or so with a cooked pet-shop bought bone, will think twice about it next time!
 
Dobiegirl said:
This is quite awful and I can see why people do this if its in the pet treat section.

The only ready made treat I give my dogs are pigs ears under supervision everything else is crap in my opinion.
Click to expand...

I don't even do that: the youngsters have a horrible habit of getting the last bit stuck in their throats and need it fished out. Yum.
 
cinnamontoast said:
I don't even do that: the youngsters have a horrible habit of getting the last bit stuck in their throats and need it fished out. Yum.
Click to expand...
Sprocket does that, so doesn't get them any more (apart from as a very occasional treat which I confiscate when he gets to the end)
I only give him antlers now along with a frozen stuffed kong which keeps him occupied for a while.
 
How desperately sad, cooked bones are just about the worst thing you can feed a dog, the cooking process makes them like concrete and the dog cannot digest them which is why when they splinter they do so much damage to the intestine.
 
I would never feed cooked bone. I frequently have to confiscate treats that people bring in with their pets for boarding. ( I tell them to take them home for when they get back)

I replace them with raw bones, pigs ears or stuffed Kongs but cooked bones or rawhide are not allowed on these premises.
 
s4sugar said:
I would never feed cooked bone. I frequently have to confiscate treats that people bring in with their pets for boarding. ( I tell them to take them home for when they get back)

I replace them with raw bones, pigs ears or stuffed Kongs but cooked bones or rawhide are not allowed on these premises.
Click to expand...

Good for you, I bet the dogs that come in to you go home very happy!!
 
I've fed cooked and raw bones to dogs, for the last 45 years, without ever having any form of mishap, HOWEVER, I have never fed any form of a pig, to a dog. I never have, and I never will.

Alec.
 
I dont feed the rawhide anymore after our JRT got some stuck in her throat. I then found antlers and they are brilliant - keeps her entertained for hours, natural and safe.
 
Alec Swan said:
I've fed cooked and raw bones to dogs, for the last 45 years, without ever having any form of mishap, HOWEVER, I have never fed any form of a pig, to a dog. I never have, and I never will.

Alec.
Click to expand...

Why?

The girl whose dog died said they removed bits from his anal passage and stomach. :(
 
I used to get those roast knuckle bones as treats until one dog got all compacted.Raw everything from then on,you`d think stuff sold in pet stores would be ok..not so.Also quite a few bullies have died from those rawhide chews with a knot at either end,the knot swells in the throat..dog suffocates.
Alec,pork bones ..esp the "aitch bone" are a great favourite of my lot,I used to believe the "never pork" theory but disregard it now. Was`nt it to do with hounds and erisyphilis??
 
Hey,

I'm new to the site but came across this post....i'm a vet nurse and saw a lab die only last week from eating a bone that was purchased for him in a pet shop. The shards of bone punctured through his intestines and stomach....we spent 8 hours trying to save the poor soul, this included 2 blood transfusions.

I was prone to feeding my dog knuckle bones for years before I came to know better....now my dogs get ostrich twisters and filled kongs.
 
I used to give them to my stressy JRT in the car to keep him entertained. I was very lucky, the splinters became bound up in loads of grass he had eaten, probably because he was in pain. The vet removed a large lump of bone splinters and rotting grass from his stomach, he's never had one since and never will.
 
Alec Swan said:
......., HOWEVER, I have never fed any form of a pig, to a dog. I never have, and I never will.

Alec.
Click to expand...

cinnamontoast said:
Why?

.......:(
Click to expand...

In truth, I don't have a valid reason, apart from the fact that I don't like the idea of omnivores being fed to carnivores, which in itself makes little reason, because for many years I've fed chicken carcasses, both cooked and raw, to dogs, and poultry have a varied diet, don't they?

Don't know, I just don't!!

An interesting point from KarynK, in that I generally give my dogs the cooked lamb or beef bones, from our table, but when they are expelled from the other end, we get hard, white, concrete bullets. I've also noticed that dogs seem dehydrated after such titbits. Mostly, my dogs seem completely unaffected by poultry bones, cooked or otherwise.

Is there any science behind the question of cooked herbivore's bones? If there is, I'd like to read it.

Alec.
 
It's cooked any bone Alec, if you take a raw chicken bone, although hard it has a degree of flexibility too it a cooked bone changes completely it is harder but brittle which is where your sharp points come from when it splinters, but because cooking makes it harder it is more difficult for the dogs system to deal with it
.
A Dog on a real natural diet will have high acidity in their gut because their whole system is designed to deal with meat and bones, some of which can be in a very decayed state.
So their food is much simpler than and omnivore and much much more so than a herbivore. Meat especially is nutrient rich which is why they only have to eat periodically as compared with say a horse that spends 18 hrs or so stuffing it's face a day.
So the dog does not have to grind it's food then stew it for a long time in order to break down plant cell walls, IT bites off large chunks with it's sharp teeth then lets the acid go to work. So with uncooked bone in a natural state that acid breaks the bone down quickly too, the whole system is speed orientated because the food is easy to break down and also it stops any nasty bugs having time to reproduce in it, that's why dogs can scavenge rancid meat and bones. So probably a dog on a natural diet may get away with cooked bones due to the acidity and speed?

BUT give a dog horse food for long enough and it changes it's system, things have to slow down to give it time to get anything from it's meal and the acidity does not need to be high, if you give this dog a cooked bone then look out, a sharp pointy brittle hard splintered piece of concrete moving slowly though a system that does not take the edges off of it quickly enough and this is exactly what happens.
 
s4sugar said:
I would never feed cooked bone. I frequently have to confiscate treats that people bring in with their pets for boarding. ( I tell them to take them home for when they get back)

I replace them with raw bones, pigs ears or stuffed Kongs but cooked bones or rawhide are not allowed on these premises.
Click to expand...

Interesting that you suggest your customers take home the treats that you won't give their dogs because they are dangerous. Surely it would be better to explain to them why you wont feed them, and then suggest alternatives.
Or are you only concerned about the welfare of these dogs while they are under your care. To hell with what happens when they go home.
 
Auslander said:
Interesting that you suggest your customers take home the treats that you won't give their dogs because they are dangerous. Surely it would be better to explain to them why you wont feed them, and then suggest alternatives.
Or are you only concerned about the welfare of these dogs while they are under your care. To hell with what happens when they go home.
Click to expand...

I tell them why I won't allow them (and suggest they take them home so I don't get accused of stealing their treat as as a friend was some twenty years ago. )
I tell them that I would not feed them to any dog and won't allow them on the premises.
I also do say what alternatives I have (and these are included at no extra cost while boarding).

This usually brings the question "why do they sell them" to which the answer is "because they make money".
Sending the stuff home at least lets them know I'm serious and I've never had a repeat offender. In fact one elderly lady would repeatedly say "you won't feed her anything she could choke on" when arriving for every stay for years.

I can't control what people feed at home.....I can only advise ...but I can make sure risks are avoided while I have care of their pets.
 
Too true..some of the things brought in make your hair stand on end,one brought a plastic half chewed flower pot..it got incinerated. Another TWO had blockages and emergency surgery whilst in,one was a corn cob..lethal,but surgery saved him.The other had a reel of nylon thread in him ,sadly the thread had unreeled and cut his intestines up badly,too much to remove,he died on the table.And the second tried to blame ME ..until I firmly said nylon thread was not on our diet sheet as far as I was aware.
It is essential to protect your back against the stupid public.
 
I once had a Dobermann pass a pair of red, lacy knickers.
Luckily they went straight through and I laundered them with the dog bedding & handed them to the owners in a plastic bag when they picked up the dog.

Some of the "toys" people bring are potentially dangerous and as for some of the bedding...
 
I had a sheltie that needed an op after having a cooked pet shop bone [ bought as a birthday treat ] it also got compacted in the intestine , there should be more advice on these products , she was,nt left alone with the bone but there was no way of me knowing what was to happen .
No longer buy treats for my dogs, but have heard good things about antlers . they are expensive though and as i have 5 dogs would cost £35 for one each !!
 
cinnamontoast said:
Cross posting from another forum. Also in Soapbox.


dog bones
I hope this is ok to post, a friend has asked me to post on here as this happend to someone she knew.

hello i hope u dont mind me posting my story on here but i need to warn people of what can happen, 3 days ago a `tasty ham bone` was bought out of the pet section in wilkos for my dog, this bone splintered and he had to have an operation to remove all the splinters, because it had compacted in his intestine his body had become very weak so they had to build him up before they operated, the op luckily went well but he had a cardiac arrest 24 hrs later, before this he was a lovable healthy 8 year old dog, we lost him for no reason, wilkos have been informed, there answer to this is there is a small print note saying to supervise your dog when he eats it cos it may fragment, they still continue to sell it, not all of there bones carry warnings and having spoke to other people i have since found there are problems with a few of there bones and treats, i gave my dog his bone in good faith it was safe as bought as a proper dog treat.

THANK YOU FOR READING.... PLEASE SHARE.... x x x x

The person to whom this happened has also posted. :(
Click to expand...

Hi, i bought the same 'tasty ham bone' from wilkos a few months ago, lucky my dog is still alive but i had problems with the splintering though lucky my dog threw it all back up and came out the other end (blood and all :( ) but i had a lucky outcome, i went straight back to wilkos about this and filled in a complaint form and spoke to management but like you say they still sell it in their shops! I did press on the fact that faulty batch or not, they should be discontinued until an investigation is made but they did nothing!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top