CoolStance Copra?

I feed it to one mare (not mine, on breeding loan, on the basis that this is the feed she and her owner like). She has 1kg dry weight, soaked, split between 2 feeds. This means a bag last around 3 weeks.
 
When i fed this to my 16.3 Warmblood, I soaked it and she was on 1/2 scoop wet, twice a day with chaff & mix. It gave her amazing condition but I eventually had to take her off it because she needs a grain-free diet so I changed to a complete feed by pure feeds.
 
Thanks :)
Been told its a guru for putting on weight and condition which is what my lad is lacking right now!
So around 1/2 a scoop per feed? And when do you start to see results?
 
In my case, I've not seen any change in Tara, rather feeding means that she comes through pregnancy and wintering out without losing any condition. Must say that when her foals are old enough to steal food, they do always look fab :p
 
My horse came to me on it to be honest. 1/2 scoop soaked twice a day. Although I loved it, it did start to make her a bit scatty (combined with the other feeds I was giving her). I can highly recommend pure feeds - pure condition - if it's condition you're after. It's brilliant & their feeds have changed my mares attitude, she's also in A1 condition & gleams!
 
Hi..My name is Dr Tim.
I am an equine nutritionist and invented Coolstance. I fully understand the rules regarding promotion of products.
I would like permission to share with you the technical aspects and experiences of CoolStance as to how and why it is fed. I have joined other forum groups in the past such at Equines Eating Well to help answer some of the questions being asked.
It is derived from the white fleshy part of the coconut, which is dried and then mechanically pressed to extract the oil. It is not the fibre nor the husk. No chemicals are added during the process. It is brown colour because it has been heated. It contains approximatley 20% protein, 11% NSC (sugar and starch) 8 -10% oil as coconut oil, and 15 DE. It is fed to replace grain and grain based feeds when there is a concern about horses being too hot, or any of the many metabolic disorders being associated with grain feeding.
Coconut oil is a saturated oil, which means it is does not go rancid if stored correctly. It is also high in MCT (medium chain triglycerides) which are absorbed directly into the blood (giving rapid energy). The lauric acid is converted to monolauren in the body, which is thought to have antimicrobial activities.
I would be pleased to answer any specific questions, or you may wish to look on our facebook for more information.
 
Whatever the technical specs I use it through the winter for my oldies. When I first started using it I began to go up a few notches on the weight tape after a couple of weeks.

(not that I'm in any way dissing the technicals but in the end it's actual results that decided what we buy)
 
Thank you Dr Tim, nice to see you here and get the info from the horse's mouth as it were.

My laminitic mare did well on it last winter and I will be putting her back on to it again soon. Unlike most laminitics she's a poor doer and I understand that Copra meal can put condition on horses safely. She held condition, was certainly not fizzy and had a lovely coat.
 
Copra is grain free. Coconut is not a grain and is low starch. I liked the concept and loved the smell of the feed but my horse wasn't that keen on the taste.
 
I started mine on it 2 weeks ago and have noticed a difference already.
Chose it for low starch/high fat levels as my boy has just had very slight stringhalt diagnosed, plus he had dropped a bit of weight.
Am feeding one scoop per day soaked split over 3 feeds (I phased it in very slowly), on top of his usual alfalfa molasses free and sugar beet and linseed.
No problems with palatability and mine is very suspicious of any unusual smells in his feed bucket!
 
I feed both mine on it, about 200-500g at the moment depending on work level together with speedibeet.

I don't like feeding mixes of any kind so look for straights.

My tb although really laid back goes through a personality change on sugars and molasses but has no such problems with Copra and he loves it which means I can hide his supplements in it.

I was introduced to it when he went to Rockley farm to be rehabbed barefoot and I've carried on feeding it.

It's not always the easiest to get hold of but have always managed to find one supplier not too far who stocks it.
 
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I found it way too high in sugar and protein unless you feed a couple of mugfuls a day like micronised linseed. Sent my WB off his head. Never again for me.
 
I fed it to my TB and found that it made her foot sore and she wasnt overly keen on it.
Also found that she didnt put any weight on, im now on Veteran Vitality which is a better feed for her, low in sugar, no cereal and she loves it!
 
Good morning from very hot Australia.
Technical information does not beat observation. Often you horse will tell you what is working and what is not. CoolStance copra is non grain, and often used to replace grain to establish a baseline.
CoolStance is mechanically expelled coconut or copra meal and contains 8-10% oil and 15 MJ DE. We can feed 3-4 kg per day to horses to put weight on. In 2000 we rode horses around Australia to coincide with the opening of the Olympics. These horses were given CoolStance, medium hay and grass that they grazed at night. Over the three months on the road, they maintained body weight, and looked a picture on arriving in Sydney.
Most people feed 1kg/day depending on the amount of work. It can be fed wet or dry. We feed it dry here in Australia, simply because it is easier and water is often a premium. In the UK and US most people feed it wet by adding 1:1 water (or more water as needed). For some competition horses that are not hydrating, we add a handful to the water. This helps hydration and digestion.
Since is has low NSC (<11%) it is also fed to horses that have metabolic issues related to grain feeding including laminitis, tying up, cushings, IR, obesity and allergies. There was a great testimonial recently from Sophie Dickensen whose horse Biff suffered severe allergies. She changed feed and went on to win an FEI Grand Prix dressage. The reason is the combined effects of low NSC, and the coconut oil, that contains lauric acid.
Our recent research with pasture fed horses showed that CoolStance is a “slow feed” because it does not cause a glucose spike when fed twice a day.
Hope this helps
Kind regards
 
YasandCrystal said:
I found it way too high in sugar and protein unless you feed a couple of mugfuls a day like micronised linseed. Sent my WB off his head. Never again for me.
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Hi YasandCrystal. If I may. CoolStance is made form copra meal. It contains only 2% starch and 9% sugar,ie a total of 11% NSC which is about what most horse require. Many horse feeds contain 15-40% NSC. Grain is 70% NSC. The energy in CoolStance copra comes from the oil. You are right in that Coolstance contains 20% protein, however when fed with medium quality grass hay, provides the required intake of protein (you have to calculate the intake of protein from both the hay and the copra).

Often, if copra is added in addition to the existing feed, it can just be too much. If you have concerns with temperamant etc, we suggest you take out all the grain, and start with a simple diet, and add back one thing at a time. Keep good records of the changes you make so that you can identify what your horse as telling you
kind regards
 
DrTim said:
Hi YasandCrystal. If I may. CoolStance is made form copra meal. It contains only 2% starch and 9% sugar,ie a total of 11% NSC which is about what most horse require. Many horse feeds contain 15-40% NSC. Grain is 70% NSC. The energy in CoolStance copra comes from the oil. You are right in that Coolstance contains 20% protein, however when fed with medium quality grass hay, provides the required intake of protein (you have to calculate the intake of protein from both the hay and the copra).

Often, if copra is added in addition to the existing feed, it can just be too much. If you have concerns with temperamant etc, we suggest you take out all the grain, and start with a simple diet, and add back one thing at a time. Keep good records of the changes you make so that you can identify what your horse as telling you
kind regards
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I did not add Copra to any existing feed - I did indeed replace his feed with it, however I think the fact I fed with Alfa-A chaff (also high in protein) proved too much for the horse. I think it clearly works for some horses, just not mine, which was a shame as he is cereal and sugar intolerant.
 
blucanoo1990 said:
I was looking to try my geldings on this.
But he is soo gits.

Do most horses like it?
Does it have a strong smell?
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It actually smells lovely - just like fresh coconut (it's a brown powder) - always reminded me of coconut biscuits. I introduced over a few days and my horse liked it immediately.
 
My boy has been on it since leaving Rockley Farm too. He has a level pet food scoop in each feed soaked to disguise the taste of his minerals and keep his weight on. I've certainly never found it heating, as despite being a cob, my boy is quite sensitive to sugar.
 
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